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    Wedding Advice Thread

    It was suggested by as many as TWO (!!!) people in a thread in Stage Forums, so here's a topic for those who are getting married and those with experience in either gettin' hitched or those who have worked in a field involving weddings. As always, remember that experiences will vary and to take it all with a grain of salt.

    Personally, I worked as a wedding DJ for about ten years and also got married myself about three years ago in a ceremony that went pretty darn well, if I do say so myself.

    Some tips off the top of my head...

    -Budget. Figure out how much you can spend, and then budget yourself for a few thousand LOWER than that. At some point in the planning you're going to get hit with some costs you hadn't thought of, and the extra cash will most likely get spent. For example: in my own wedding, after we had paid the deposit and signed the paperwork with the reception hall, we discovered that not only did they not have enough china for dinner, what they did have was old, cracked and generally disgusting. Our options were then to decide between paying a premium to the catering company to have them handle it, or to purchase some moderately nice china in bulk, use it once and then donate it to a local kitchen for a few hundred bucks less than the caterer. Just like that, nearly $1,000 went to dishes we used once and never saw again.

    -Ask questions. As described above, had we known the hall didn't have adequate dishware for our needs, we may have reconsidered going there, and the same goes for the caterer. People who work around weddings are used to hearing a billion-zillion questions, and if they aren't willing to answer a few regarding resources and costs, don't work with them. Even if you - or your family - has an unlimited amount of cash, ask questions and look to get solid answers. If somebody you're thinking about hiring for your wedding can't answer something logically or respond by looking for specific numbers in order to give you an estimate, they're eventually going to try and screw you at the last second when you don't have a choice. I've seen the nicest-looking old lady florists double their price hours before a ceremony because of bullshit reasons.

    -Guests and food. The average number for people who will RSVP positively and then flake out on the day-of is around 10 percent. HOWEVER - if you've been RSVP'd for 200 guests, plan on food for 200. It seems like an easy way to cut a few bucks, but the look of humiliation on the faces of a bride and groom whose guests didn't get any food is very, very sad. It's like they're looking at the rest of their lives stretching out in front of them as nothing but failure and it adds a real tinge of sadness to the entire night. I've only seen it a few times, but it changes the entire tone fast. Just spring for the food, and even making sure you've got extra can't hurt. A drunk, fat guest wanting to stop at a drive-thru on the way home is no big deal. A guest leaving your wedding early because they're starving will turn into all you think about the rest of the night, and all people talk about later on.

    -Entertainment. If you're going for a band, look for a band with plenty of wedding experience, preferably one you've seen before who fits the tone you're looking for. If you're going for a DJ, it's also best if you've seen them work before. 99.9% of DJ's will be carrying cards with them, so in the year or so before you get married (and you DO have to think about it that far ahead if you want to book somebody decent) pay attention when you're out and about or at other weddings.

    When hiring a DJ, you should look for somebody in the age range between 25-29. At that point they have most likely been doing it for several years, have experience in reading a crowd and keeping them entertained but are also professional enough to maintain the right mood while enjoying themselves. DJ's younger than 24 will probably hit the booze too hard or play poor music choices, and most DJ's older than 30 are failures who were pooped out of the radio biz who will wear cheap, ill-fitting tuxedos with bright tennis shoes (because it's FUN!), try to get your guests to do hula-hoop or limbo in the middle of your reception (it gets the party STARTED!) and play every C'mon Ride The Dogs Out Mambo #5 you ever thought about killing yourself after hearing. The above is not a tried-and-fast rule, as I have seen DJ's who legitimately continue doing it forEVER because they enjoy it, but beware of what is described above as the worst traits in a wedding DJ. And don't be afraid to ask if it would be possible to stop by one of their receptions to check them out if you're going in blind. It puts them on their best game, and in my own experience most couples are fine with somebody stopping by their reception for a short while if they do it after dinner, because they know all too well how hard it is to find somebody for this stuff.

    That's certainly long-winded enough for a first post. Further advice/commentary from others and specific concerns - GO!



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    Don't rush through your tux fitting. Make sure the pants are the right length and stuff.
    If it's a day wedding, eat breakfast. Night wedding, eat lunch. You probably won't have very long to enjoy your meal and being hungry in ill-fitting formal wear sucks.



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    Re: Marriage Advice Thread

    Shouldn't this say Wedding Advice Thread?



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    Get too drunk with your brothers on the way to the reception, then make fun of your youngest brother's new bride in your best man speech.

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    This is very a well timed thread for me! I got engaged last November and we are just now getting started with the wedding planning for our wedding next spring. Key to me: Small, small and smaller. We live in Califiornia but the wedding is going to be in Northern Maine, very remote. Hopefully the remoteness help keep our numbers down (we're hoping for 35, tops). We'll have the ceremony on the beach at his familiy's historic cabin on Cobscook Bay. No electricity and only one outhouse are going to force us to have the reception elsewhere. I'd love it somebody could offer advice on remote planning. We're going to Maine this summer to scout locations and figure out logistics but we won't be back there until the wedding. A daunting prospect!
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    Before getting hammered on gin and tonics and making this speech:

    "My brother: Too old to be a bad influence, too young to be a good influence. He's like the stepfather I never had"

    Make sure to find out if the guy you thought was the bride-to-be's father is actually her step-father.

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    Re: Marriage Advice Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Berliner View Post
    Shouldn't this say Wedding Advice Thread?
    Yes, it should. See, even perfect people like myself make mistakes.



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    Re: Marriage Advice Thread

    Anyway, please tell me your tips for spicing up the bedroom.



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    From a wedding singer (ceremony, not reception), here is some advice:

    - Don't over estimate how much time it takes to light the unity candle. If you do want a song during that time, make it no more than a page.

    - There are three very popular wedding pieces called Ave Maria, and about 40 more that aren't as popular. Do not just tell your musician you want Ave Maria. Specify.

    - If you want pop music during your ceremony, that's all fine and dandy, but your pianist is MUCH better at playing Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring and the Wedding March than anything by Chicago or The Beatles. And Chicago and The Beatles doesn't sound good on a pipe organ. And it doesn't sound nearly as good with just one person playing instead of an entire band.

    - Let the pianist/organist know how many minutes of music you want before the wedding, and be willing to pay based on how long before the ceremony starts you need him or her. She might be playing 3 other weddings that day.

    - If you have a pianist and need a singer, or vice versa, ask the one you have for recommendations. Many singers have a go-to accompanist who has already played Pie Jesu with them a hundred times and knows exactly when to slow down, speed up, crescendo, etc.

    -Invite the musicians to the rehearsal dinner. It's just polite. They spend hours at the rehearsal getting yelled at or being told what they're doing is wrong, the least you can do is offer a meal.

    -Ask your musicians what they need in the way of
    Music Stand
    Page Turner
    Music Lamp
    Amplification

    Every venue is different, and every piece is different. If you want them to perform from memory, let them know when you first hire them.

    -If you want the singer to dress in the wedding colors, the rate will go up. Most singers have 10-12 go to dresses for performing, and 8-9 of them are black. If it's that important to you that she wear purple, give her a purple corsage, or buy the dress for her.

    -Have you ever listened to the Wedding March all the way through? It's long and doesn't end in an easy way. Let your pianist know how long your wedding party is so she can play for a pleasant ending.

    I know I"ll have more after the wedding I'm singing at this weekend. If anyone would like a FREE consultation regarding what music to pick and how to find a musician in your area, PM me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babychoby View Post
    This is very a well timed thread for me! I got engaged last November and we are just now getting started with the wedding planning for our wedding next spring. Key to me: Small, small and smaller. We live in Califiornia but the wedding is going to be in Northern Maine, very remote. Hopefully the remoteness help keep our numbers down (we're hoping for 35, tops). We'll have the ceremony on the beach at his familiy's historic cabin on Cobscook Bay. No electricity and only one outhouse are going to force us to have the reception elsewhere. I'd love it somebody could offer advice on remote planning. We're going to Maine this summer to scout locations and figure out logistics but we won't be back there until the wedding. A daunting prospect!
    My sister was married at a remote former campground in the woods. Here were a few of the problems we encountered:

    -ease of location. If people are going to have to make a dozen turns from a major roadway to get there, you're going to scare guests away and at least one or two will get lost on the way there. Try to keep it to only a few turns, and include a map in the invitations. It seems like everybody would be able to figure it out from an address themselves, but your friends and family are dumber than you think. And find a local engraving/sign shop and price out some cheap plastic signs you could nail onto posts or trees for the day to help guide them there. Seriously, you will be amazed how dumb your associates can be.

    -parking. Also, if your friends/family have to park on a dirt road and march 1/2 a mile or more to where you're getting married, you're going to have dirty, unhappy guests. If they can't park moderately close to the site, consider renting some golf carts. You can find some with up to 6 seats, and if you ask any younger cousins or whatevers (maybe 14-16?) if they'd like to drive people back and forth, they'll probably jump for joy at the prospect.

    -Rent some large tents. Cover from the sun if it's a nice day, shelter from rain if it's (unfortunately) a bad day. A lot of companies that rent out furniture/tables for weddings will either rent these out, or know somebody who does. It seems like a nice thing to have everybody out in the sun, but your older family will start wilting immediately and once that complaint train starts rolling, it never ends.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Berliner View Post
    Anyway, please tell me your tips for spicing up the bedroom.
    Double-headed dildos all up in that, dawg.



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    Thanks, Drieux! Those are definitely things that hadn't even occurred to me! The cabin IS 1/2 mile down a dirt path (which is itself off another dirt road six miles from the highway)! Luckily my better half's family owns the house that sits at the head of the path so we can have people park there in the field.
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    As a retired veteran (20+ years) nightclub dj (who wears brightly colored tennis shoes...fuck you, drieux...they match my sweater vest)...let me just remind you that "wedding dj" is a very specific skill...and you should hire people who do that. Very few weddings are going to want underground goa trance from beginning to end of their receptions.

    Also, don't "invite" your talented friends and expect them to do creative work for your wedding for free. I can't tell you how many weddings just expected me to work for free (either by playing pre-recorded music during the ceremony...or some even expected me to bring equipment and dj their reception for free.) Hire them to work OR invite them to not work...there's no middle ground. Creative friends are not a way for you to save money. (Of course, it's an entirely different thing if they OFFER to do things for you--use 'em if ya got 'em.)

    pg--Worked a few weddings in my day. Played the music that they wanted me to play. Everyone ended up happy. Would never do another one ever again.--sunny acres retirement home

    PS--For MY wedding (sorry, James Smann, it's already happened...had to get it in before the world ended)...we eschewed almost every wedding tradition. No rehearsal. No groomsmen. No bridesmaids. No music. No ceremony (just a retired judge and two minutes to get through the legal stuff.) Then, the best meal ever for 24 of our closest friends and relatives...and done.

    Then...a couple days later, we had an open house/barbecue for everybody. It was awesome...great food, Guitar Hero and an open mic comedy show on our backyard deck.

    OK...that last part wasn't the best idea. (Lots of explaining to our neighbors why there was a 50 year old German MTF post-op transsexual yelling about her new vagina over a PA system.) But everyone had a great time and said it was the best wedding and pseudo-reception they'd ever been to...
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    We are planning of doing things as minimally and as simply as possible. No fluffy white dress, no wedding party, no cake and no decorations (save a few wildflowers perhaps). A family friend will be officiating. Since we have no idea where we'll hold the reception, I don't really know what we'll do. definitely no DJ or band, maybe some ipod music, again, depending on where we land. His family are all either hella old, teetotalers or BOTH so they won't be much into dancing and whooping it up. My family on the other hand, oh boy! This is gonna be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pg13 View Post

    Also, don't "invite" your talented friends and expect them to do creative work for your wedding for free. I can't tell you how many weddings just expected me to work for free (either by playing pre-recorded music during the ceremony...or some even expected me to bring equipment and dj their reception for free.) Hire them to work OR invite them to not work...there's no middle ground. Creative friends are not a way for you to save money. (Of course, it's an entirely different thing if they OFFER to do things for you--use 'em if ya got 'em.)
    Times a billion. This is tough as a singer, because.....you know, a little bit of preparation is involved with singing. Even Cecilia Bartoli doesn't wake up in the morning sounding beautiful. Plus, singers need accompanists and even if you think "It'll be fine, just sing it a capella", we hate that.

    This reminds me, in addition to my list earlier:
    - If you can't afford an accompanist for your singer, you can't afford a singer. Singing to a tape is the worst thing you could ask a singer to do, especially for a fancy occasion like a wedding. If you want your singer to play to a track, just get a recording of a singer.
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    Being a wedding singer sounds like a real pain in the ass.
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    I hope it doesn't come across like bitching. This is a thread for wedding advice and as someone who has grown up around weddings and performed in lots of them, I just want to help my internet friends get the most out of their wedding singers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Bongers View Post
    Being a wedding singer sounds like a real pain in the ass.
    It does, it sounds awful.

    My friend recently asked me to sing a song at her wedding. I'm like, what? A Cappella? What song? At what point during the ceremony? The wedding is next week, you want to get me some sheet music? You don't know the answer to any of those questions? Ok, not going to happen then.
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    This is what I get for trying to give advice on something I do professionally in an advice thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolineEAnd View Post
    This is what I get for trying to give advice on something I do professionally in an advice thread.

    well, it only sounds awful to me because I don't like people (generally) and while I like to sing and am good at it, my anxiety disorder needs to be overcome when I preform. Therefore, being a wedding singer would be a terrible job for me. I supposed though, if you were a people person and didn't have crippling stage fright, it'd be an awesome job!
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