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About LinkBacksGood luck, Chad...and know that we're here if you need us for anything!
Good luck, Chad...and know that we're here if you need us for anything!
We'll just take the fact that this was too long and that you didn't read it...as read.
Good luck luck man. If you need support or to vent you know where you can find me. (Working out at a gym to keep my figure.)Originally Posted by TimBuktu
"Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory."
Sobering... Have had/gone to two sober parties now... I smoke, I don't drink. It's fine for a while but my desire to hang out with people for hours and hours at a time has gone right out the window.
Also, how old do I have to get til I can have a party where someone doesn't puke in my utility sink downstairs without telling anyone?
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You're an idiot.
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That hopefully means you've been fortunate to never know anyone with a drinking problem. In college I had a friend, let's call him Brad, who was constantly crying because he had gotten drunk and cheated on his significant other the night before. He would call us at 4 AM saying he just woke up from a blackout and needed a ride home but didn't know where he was. The week after he passed out into a drainage ditch (needing significant surgery for multiple broken bones), he was arrested for drunk and disorderly (which he didn't remember doing). He doesn't understand the concept of someone getting sober either, because he's just 21 and having fun.
Hopefully you don't understand because everyone you know has a healthy relationship with alcohol. I hope you aren't like Brad.
Eyes are the losers in the skies.
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Oh, of course not. I'm just pointing out a personal friend who also "honestly [doesn't] understand the concept of someone getting sober."
Eyes are the losers in the skies.
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do you enjoy not drinking, or do you just not want to drink?
i, for one, really enjoy not eating nuts.
I enjoy doing other things instead of drinking.
But if you did enjoy it, you might find it difficult (if not at least annoying) to stop. It's not hard to keep from doing something when you don't enjoy it in the first place.
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When did I say it was otherwise? I'm pointing out that it's not either you love drinking or you don't love drinking because you can't handle it anymore. Maybe you don't like the taste. Maybe you don't like feeling the loss of control, or the loss of your cognitive faculties. Maybe you don't think it's healthy. Maybe you feel like it's a crutch.
Oh ok sorry. I misunderstood. I don't like drinking either.
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Was having drinks with friends the other night and, about three-quarters the way through my third drink, I thought, "That's it. If I have any more, I'll lose it," which was great for me, a first.
Fuck it, I'll just PM Berliner.
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I don't really see how I'm sanctimonious about it, since I'm not telling everybody point blank it's wrong to drink. Look at it from my perspective. This is a thread about not drinking. Yet every once in a while someone comes on here and talks about how awesome alcohol is. That's like me going onto a thread about beer and wine, and arrogantly telling people how terrible alcohol is. But I don't do that. Nor, during the many, many times I've met ASTers in real life, have I criticized any of them for drinking. And believe me, Bridgetown was almost non stop drinking.
No, I am not a recovering alcoholic, but I have a life time of experience in not drinking, and I feel like what I bring to the table is the ability to tell people from personal experience that you can lead a rich, full happy life without drinking, which feels appropriate to me in a thread about people contemplating never drinking again. What I have a lot of difficulty understanding is why you think I'm sanctimonious about it, when I am perfectly fine with people who drink. But as I have said many, many times, this is a thread about sobriety. Also, your post seems pretty sanctimonious to me.
This isn't a thread about not drinking- this is a thread about stopping drinking because you are an alcoholic. Sanctimonious or not, I don't understand how you think your situation is in any way relatable or even relevant here. This is not a personal attack, I just find it really odd.
I think I kept myself pretty low key for most of this thread, with just words of encouragement until the first breakout of people who started getting weirdly pro booze. I felt I was better equipped to handle telling them that this was an inappropriate thread than recovering alcoholics (even if I did drink, I would probably have said exactly the same thing I did). Then in the next controversy, the point I was trying to make is that not drinking doesn't make you a weirdo. Though, I guess in a lot of ways I am a weirdo. Nevertheless, there are normal people out there who also choose not to drink.
I think I can relate to the feelings of isolation in being the only person in a bunch of friends who doesn't drink (I honestly don't think I know anyone else who point blank doesn't drink, but they don't do it in front of me in a way that makes me feel left out), and can relate to the feeling that everybody else is having a good time except you sometimes, and that you can't break the ice as easily as someone who's drinking, and the missed social and frankly the professional opportunities that sometimes come with not drinking. No, it's different for me, but I can relate to a lot of the secondary stuff that comes with trying to get sober, probably a lot better than drinkers here who are just offering words of encouragement.
Maybe I wasn't so good with making it clear, but I can empathize with a lot of what people have been saying. I haven't really mentioned it, because I don't want to be a downer about things when I honestly enjoy living the way I do, and I've mainly been wanting people to take away the fact that life doesn't stop and become a brutal hellscape when you stop drinking. I personally think you get a lot more out of life from not drinking than from drinking, and whether that's true or not, it's probably a better mindset for someone undergoing sobriety to have.
But yeah, there are bad parts, and you have to learn to adapt to them. Actually I've always wondered what it would be like to stop drinking and suddenly lose a lot of social tools. Does it feel like you've suddenly lost a bunch of social skills you've always thought were innate within you?
What's funny to me is that I think I could be someone who drank, or someone who was going through sobriety, and basically write the exact same things on here and it wouldn't be considered all that weird. But because I choose not the drink, people think I have some sort of agenda to convert everybody into not drinking, or look down on people who do drink, and make all kinds of assumptions about what I'm trying to say.
So I do think it's relatable you arrogant prick.
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