Politics!

[scamboogah]

I'm with you Disco. Anyone that says, "I don't like either candidate, so I'm not gonna vote", is basically telling the world that they're too ignorant or lazy to go out and find someone that actually does represent them. Either that, or too apathetic to have any interest in a process that could very well determine large scale parts of their future.

Either way, fuck 'em. The people get what the people deserve.

[NFox]

I'm with you Disco. Anyone that says, "I don't like either candidate, so I'm not gonna vote", is basically telling the world that they're too ignorant or lazy to go out and find someone that actually does represent them. Either that, or too apathetic to have any interest in a process that could very well determine large scale parts of their future.

Either way, fuck 'em. The people get what the people deserve.

That's why I'm going with "none of the above" and voting for a third party candidate. Call me an idealist, but I really think that voting should all be about picking the best person for the job, not party lines.

-Nick

[pmottaz]

That's why I'm going with "none of the above" and voting for a third party candidate. Call me an idealist, but I really think that voting should all be about picking the best person for the job, not party lines.

-Nick

Me personally, I haven't been moved enough by a third party candidate for me to vote for them/NOT vote for the "lesser of two evils" in the Big Two parties.

I would, like you, love to have 3, 4, 14 parties with legitimate chances at winning. Since they don't, the idealist in me gives way to the realist.

[Hated Milk Machine]

That's why I'm going with "none of the above" and voting for a third party candidate. Call me an idealist, but I really think that voting should all be about picking the best person for the job, not party lines.

-Nick

What third party candidate are you voting for?

[KevinLee]

I don't mind when someone doesn't vote because politicians are slimeballs.
If you all were wondering who I'm voting for this year, and I'm sure you all are, all I gotta say is, "NFox 4 President of Funnyclown's Ass 2008!!! Wooo!!!"

[Vanessa]

Does anyone else want to commit violent acts when Hillary supporters say they aren't sure who they're going to vote for?

she doesn't vote on the first date:

[DiscoInferiorityComplex]

she doesn't vote on the first date:

Ooooooohh, they're just doing performance art. Phew, for a second there, I thought she was real. The twitching was clearly inspired by Wiig.

[Jenny]

I'm with you Disco. Anyone that says, "I don't like either candidate, so I'm not gonna vote", is basically telling the world that they're too ignorant or lazy to go out and find someone that actually does represent them. Either that, or too apathetic to have any interest in a process that could very well determine large scale parts of their future.

Either way, fuck 'em. The people get what the people deserve.

Either that or they reject the whole democratic process and dream of a Leninist revolution. Sorry, I had an encounter with one of those guys last night and I'm trying to get it off my mind.

[angryrobot]

to be fair, the Obama supporters were total assholes to the Hillary supporters. Total. They unjustly turned Hillary into Nader (who is right about the Democrats by the way). I doubt very much any of Hillary's supporters are going to vote for McCain - at worst they'll stay home. I understand them wanting revenge but I hope they understand that if McCain wins they are going to catch even more hell than Ralph Nader did in 2000.

[Berliner]

I don't think the American system was set up very well for third party candidates. However, I hope that one day someone will at least introduce runoff voting. Will never happen though.

[DiscoInferiorityComplex]

to be fair, the Obama supporters were total assholes to the Hillary supporters. Total. They unjustly turned Hillary into Nader (who is right about the Democrats by the way). I doubt very much any of Hillary's supporters are going to vote for McCain - at worst they'll stay home. I understand them wanting revenge but I hope they understand that if McCain wins they are going to catch even more hell than Ralph Nader did in 2000.

I don't think it was that unjust. She continued on in the race, long after she had a reasonable mathematical chance to win. She wasted countless dollars, and more importantly, made negative stories about Obama's credentials and reputation the top of the news cycle for two unnecessary months. If she had pulled a Mitt Romney, and said "I might be able to pull this one out, but it would do irreparable harm to my party in the process", we wouldn't be having any of these problems.

Believe me, if Hillary had a huge enough lead that Obama needed to win 65% of the vote in each of the remaining states to win (and we was polling well, but not well enough to win), and he stayed in the race and constantly bashed her credentials and brought up past scandals and policy debacles, I'd greet his unabashed supporters with scorn as well.

[angryrobot]

the assholery by the Obama people started well before Obama clinched. I understand that Hillary lost a lot of good will from the lefty blogosphere when she voted for the war but they all became bullshit hypocrite misogynists to me when they embraced Joe Biden as VP. A man who voted for the war AND championed a usurious bankruptcy bill that condemned millions of Americans into indentured servitude. The American Idol-type worship of Barack Obama has me more than a little uneasy.

Just turned on the convention. Does the stage for Obama's speech look like a big dick and square balls to anyone else?

[Jenny]

the assholery by the Obama people started well before Obama clinched. I understand that Hillary lost a lot of good will from the lefty blogosphere when she voted for the war but they all became bullshit hypocrite misogynists to me when they embraced Joe Biden as VP. A man who voted for the war AND championed a usurious bankruptcy bill that condemned millions of Americans into indentured servitude. The American Idol-type worship of Barack Obama has me more than a little uneasy.

Just turned on the convention. Does the stage for Obama's speech look like a big dick and square balls to anyone else?

So you're going with Nader, I assume? I think the Clintons were dismissive of Obamaduring the campaign,but many were also turned off by the rabid Clinton fanbase. (the three am ad, bill saying Obama wasn't ready to be president) And what is this bill you speak of?

[NFox]

What third party candidate are you voting for?

Right now, I'm going towards Bob Barr, but I'm open to change. I'll be researching any candidate no matter how obscure until the moment I step into that booth in November.

I fought long and hard to like either of the main two candidates, but just couldn't in good conscience say I was voting for one for any other reason than to vote against the other. So, I started reading up on the third party guys. I don't align myself with any particularly party, but if pressed I guess I would say I'm Libertarian (Socially Liberal, and Economically Conservative) as I want the government out of my personal life and out of my wallet. For the moment, Bob Barr is the closest to my ideals...so, for the moment he has my tentative vote.

...If he ends up having a really boring sex scandal (I can't imagine him being caught having anything but really boring sex) or something between now and election time, I may have to realign again*, but It appears for the first time in my life I'll be voting for someone who doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning, and I gotta say, it feels good.

-Nick


*If he has an awesome sex scandal...I may find a way to vote for him twice.

[Jenny]

Uhm, you know Bob Barr signed the defense of marriage act,right?

[NFox]

Uhm, you know Bob Barr signed the defense of marriage act,right?

A) Yes I do.

B) Wasn't it signed 11(ish) years ago?

C) Isn't it possible he's changed his view since then (If only to gain a larger base)?

D) Even if he still agrees with it still, he's still the candidate I agree with on the most topics. If I had to wait for a candidate that I agreed with on all subjects, I'd end up running for president.

-Nick

[Jenny]

That, and he is very anti abortion and doesn't give a damn about the environment: http://ontheissues.org/Bob_Barr.htm#Families_+_Children

Sorry,but I care about social issues not just foreign policy or the economy.

[NFox]

That, and he is very anti abortion and doesn't give a damn about the environment: http://ontheissues.org/Bob_Barr.htm#Families_+_Children

Sorry,but I care about social issues not just foreign policy or the economy.

No need to apologize. I like that we differ on opinions. It keeps things interesting...and you know, human.

The specific issues you picked out are two that I could have a year long discussion about...so I'll save you all and just say that regardless of those two issues and my stance on them, the economy is my biggest issue. Well, that and our foreign policy and personal privacy. Thanks to the PATRIOT Act, just by me typing "PATRIOT Act" in any proximity to words like bomb, president, White House, 9/11, or Al Qaeda, I've made terror suspects of AST's entire user base...sorry.

-Nick

[TimBuktu]

If Barack's speech and video made me choke up, am I a pussy?

[samishah]

I'm a Pakistani and I choked up. Jeezus.