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Dexter is so weird; I think the acting kind of sucks (Doakes!), but I still like it. It's all about Michael C. Hall.
I am catching up on Season 2 right now.
Same here... I'm hoping against hope that Dexter finally loses his brittle, blond girlfriend and their sexless, loveless relationship.
(But my hopes have been dashed because the formerly intriguing British girl is now being portrayed as a psycho slut. Also the sister hates her irrationally, and since she's the bean-pole moral compass to Dexter that only means she's on the outs.)
-Stig, Jack Handey's Bestest Fan
"We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. But we can't scoff at them personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me."
Rita is annoying but the loveless part probably has more to do with Dexter's complete inability to feel emotions or connect with other human beings
I found Lila incredibly attractive, which should tell you something about my personality flaws (on Mr. Hall's previous series I had a major jones for Brenda)
My biggest gripe with this show (besides the fact that the writers seem to have no concern for how implausible any plot point may be) is that in order to help you identify with Dexter they're getting close to betraying the whole premise of the show. He's a sociopath. He's empty. But they're sort of acting as if following his "code" is somehow going to change that, make him learn to love or whatever. Just because the people you're killing for pleasure happen to be jerks...that don't cure crazy. Did you ever see that canadian vampire show Forever Knight?
Rita is annoying. Actually, pretty much everyone is annoying on Dexter except Dexter and fuckin Matsuka who rules.
e: Keith, I think maybe the idea is that Dexter thinks he's a sociopath, that he really desperately wants to be a sociopath, but he isn't, and that's the whole conflict of his character. The "code" shit is pretty stupid, though.
At least they finally found a way to get rid of Doakes. I don't know what happened between ER and Dexter, but my guess is Eric King wanged the part of his brain that apportioned talent and then started eating fistfuls of anabolic steroids.Originally Posted by FF Woodycooks
Also, that code shit was always really weak, but it's made weaker by the fact that Harry pretty obviously conditioned Dexter to be a murderer since age 7.
"One day you'll have terrible urges to kill, son, and you won't be able to do anything about it. Sorry."
"Can I have roller skates?"
"Only after you've slaughtered your deer. I'm doing this for you, Dexter."
-Stig, Jack Handey's Bestest Fan
"We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. But we can't scoff at them personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me."
If you're right, that is an immense, show-ruining copout.
Was it really age 7? I thought it was later than that. Regardless, I never thought they implied that the kid really DID have emotions and Harry was somehow squashing that. If that's where they go with it...boy that will be lousy. Now that I think about it there's a decision made at the end of season 2, which I won't spoil, that makes that seem highly unlikely
If Rita would turn into Darla then we could get things going.
And I want to like Debra... I do. But... (I will not kill my sister, I will not kill my sister.)
I don't think they meant to play it that way, but the revelations about Harry coupled with the awkward flashbacks to baby Dexter make it seem like Harry was more leading than containing.
Dexter was like 4 when Harry picked him up. Later we see a 7-10 year old Dexter being told his urges to kill will never go away and being coached to evade all kinds of therapy by Harry. Weird.
I know Dexter's inner monologue is all about how he's a monster and empty inside and whatever, but the show is getting dangerously close to betraying that aspect of the character. On top of him "caring" about Rita and her kids there's the fact that his psychosis only has 2 outward symptoms, killing people and moderate OCD. Strike one of those and Dexter's basically your friend with the boring girlfriend and the record collection you can't touch.
-Stig, Jack Handey's Bestest Fan
"We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. But we can't scoff at them personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me."
Doesn't the fact that he only kills bad people already conflict with the premise? I mean, if he didn't care for people, why would he only kill the bad ones? Just because his dad said so? If that's the case then he cares about his parents and.. this is starting to confuse me.
Of course, I'm only 2 episodes in to the first season, so forgive me for sticking my nose in.
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This contradiction is the basis for the entire series.
It's kind of like asking why Tony Soprano went to therapy if he was just going to keep being a mobster.
Part of it is that killing jerks is a little bit safer, I guess? I just don't know if I buy that your dad can talk you into getting stabbin'-boners
I think finding a "bad" person is just a part of his serial killer ritual. There's not a whole lot of moral judgement on Dexter's part. In fact, I think he's excited when he discovers a new murderer or whatever because it means he gets to kill again.
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Okay, so I think I've finally nailed what was bad about season 2 (excluding 9/10s of the cast, which I consider holdover badness from season 1). The B plots are horrible schlock.
They're so bad that a lot of the time I'm not even sure why we're supposed to hate the domestic villain du jour, apart from the fact that everyone else in the scene hates them unreasonably. Rita's mother? What the hell was that? She's a terrible person because she made the angelic children do school work and eat well? And worse yet, she only exists to allow Rita to have her second brittle, annoying stand-up moment in which she shrugs off a bad influence in her life so she can support a serial killer.
British Weirdo is turned from love interest to pariah instantly because Beanpole Sister hates her at sight for no apparent reason. And her hatred is never explored or even given a cursory questioning? Seriously?
The new female captain is competent for maybe 1 episode, then she immediately goes into crazy girlfriend mode and tries to use her forensics people to find evidence that her boyfriend is cheating on her? Seriously? Then it turns out that, DUN DUN DUN! He is cheating, and with the old captain!
Daokes suspects Dexter is a serial killer and tails him for weeks, then gives up the second he finds Dexter in an AA meeting and gives him a curt nod and a cursory warning? Eeuurrrgh.
-Stig, Jack Handey's Bestest Fan
"We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. But we can't scoff at them personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me."
They make Dexter TOO buddy-buddy with the kids. I mean, it's obvious that he would never hurt children (Because he was traumatized as a child? Because children are innocent?) but it's like super-dad mode or something with them. Maybe it's supposed to be, but I find it terribly fake. Hey, who wants donuts! Bedtime, pal! blerp de blerp!
Rita's mother? I dunno, just a piece of the puzzle that makes Rita weak and vulnerable, although as stated above I didn't find Jobeth Williams to be that much of an ogre. And then, she was gone. So... OK. Rita's mom, thanks for playing.
The b-plots in the first season were worse. Remember that thing where the cops all put on those clown masks
Rita's mom was a bitch. Didn't you see the other scenes, the ones where she was being all bitchy?
And I think it's fairly easy to see a few reasons why his sister might not like Lila without spelling it out
I always read that fakeness (is that a word?) as intentional. He is acting with the children how he believes he is supposed to act - how he thinks people expect him to act.
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