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    I thought it was a brilliant ending as well. For the first time all season, I'm kind of rooting for and cheering along with walt as all of the tension from the heist is released.... And then he shoots a kid. I love how it was edited. Just enough time for me to think, "oh shit what do they do about this kid now" and then his face gets shot. I honestly thought the opening was just to set up the location of the heist.
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    At one point during the heist, I told my husband I heard the kid's dirt bike pull up. We rewound it and he couldn't hear it (they really mixed it in with the sound of the pumps and the score/music) but I heard it again. Even the sound editing on this show is amazing. My stomach hit the floor when they shot that kid... the show gets more cringeworthy every week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrangeLight View Post
    i feel like the return of skylar's chain smoking is setting up someone (walt?) poisoning her with the ricin he put in behind the light switch plate. there's a reason walt didn't just flush it and i think there's a reason (other than demonstrating skylar's stress) that she's smoking in the house now. i don't think it'll actually go down just like that, that he poisons her cigarette, but i think we'll get led in that direction before the show flips and does something unexpected instead.
    That's what I'm thinking as well, but someone will probably bum a cigarette off of Skyler or Walt Junior will take one to get back at her for making him live with his aunt and uncle.



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    I don't really care but the security tag thing - is it really that easy to take them off and put them back on? It was so fast. I couldn't see how they did it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nathansmart View Post
    I don't really care but the security tag thing - is it really that easy to take them off and put them back on? It was so fast. I couldn't see how they did it.
    I'll be watching this episode again today or tomorrow, but if my memory is right, they just cut off the original ones and put new duplicates on. I have no clue how realistic or possible that would be, or whether those tags are encoded. It's been a long time since my days as a methylamine rail car security tag inspector.


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    Oh man... I forgot that the generator/pump was running while they celebrated.... they shut it off and then you really hear the kids dirtbike. Man, these guys think of everything. Some ad wizards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrainRotMenacer View Post
    That's what I'm thinking as well, but someone will probably bum a cigarette off of Skyler or Walt Junior will take one to get back at her for making him live with his aunt and uncle.
    The increasing anger of Walt Jr. (as indicated by his increasing use of the word "jack-shit") makes me think he will end up being instrumental in the way the plot unfolds.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Darryl View Post
    The increasing anger of Walt Jr. (as indicated by his increasing use of the word "jack-shit") makes me think he will end up being instrumental in the way the plot unfolds.
    Yes! If Walt Jr. turns on Walt, then you know the end is near.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weinerslave View Post
    Criminey, Breaking Bad! You get me all wound up rooting for Walt 'n the gang to pull of that train heist, and before I even get a chance to exult in their success, the potato-looking guy straight-up shoots a kid! It's like w/ Gus last season. You're pulling for him to wipe out the Cartel, then he gets back to ABQ and is all "I will kill your infant daughter." Vince Gilligan? More like Buzz Killigan!
    Maybe I'm a masochist, but I love the harsh slaps on the audience's wrist anytime we root for these nogoodniks. This show is the most entertaining "Scared Straight" lecture ever. Honestly, I'm surprised some opportunistic politician hasn't praised it for upholding old-fashioned values and proving time and again that drugs are really bad and crime does not pay. Has National Review embraced this yet? Seems like only a matter of time.



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    This episode was great, as they pretty much all are, but now I'm going to be Buzz Killigan and confess that I find the show less interesting and less emotionally engaging now that Walt is no longer in a moral gray area wrestling with right and wrong. He has become a cartoon kingpin (or wanna-be kingpin at least), and while the plot is still engrossing, the characters are running out of road (which Walt seemingly already has -- Skyler too, given how one-note she's been this season).

    Maybe the most interesting thing in this episode was Walt's breakdown in Hank's office, and his admission that Sky doesn't love him anymore. I want to believe that came from a real place, that he (the character Walt) was tapping into some truth that he has otherwise avoided, and maybe he was, but to immediately undercut it with his actual motive (bugging the office) was, while consistent with the arc of the season, emotionally unsatisfying. It didn't surprise me (it was very predictable in fact), and I've learned by now not to expect anything else but ruthless TCOB behavior from Walt, but the show worked best when Walt was still clinging to the idea that he could still be the good husband and the good father, and when he could justify his actions as purely in the interest of self-preservation and protecting his family. Now that that's gone, we've got this Heisenberg jackass, who is an entertaining anti-hero at times, but nothing compared to the nuanced character we started watching. Some of Walt's growly proclamations are downright laughable compared to the relative realism of past seasons. "The methylamine keeps flowing!"

    I'm not saying there isn't validity to the idea that people can go from good to bad by degrees and lose sight of why they even started down a certain path to begin with, but Walt has reached the end of that path, and so what else is there to say or do? He's either going to keep beating the odds and surviving on his wits (which, again, is fun to watch but kind of an empty thrill since we pretty much all loathe what he's become), or he's going to die and then it really is over. I hope I'm wrong and that the show has a big character twist up its sleeve, but I think I held my breath for that last season, and it never came. If it does, then the slow burn will have been worth it, even if watching it unfold in cable show season-time has been excruciating. Knowing what Gilligan has said about his goal with BB (taking a character from good to evil) doesn't give me much hope that there will be a turn. Hell, at this point if they salvage Walt and Sky's relationship, it will be the greatest dramatic trick anyone's ever seen.



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    "Just because you killed Jesse James, doesn't make you Jesse James."

    I don't think this applies anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isoS View Post
    Lots of smart, characteristically insightful stuff...
    I imagine this is why Gilligan and co. wanted to establish a firm end date. They know that Walter went from conflicted to loathsome a while back, so there wasn't much more gray area to explore as you noted. Consequently, these last 16 seem to be less about our emotional attachment and entanglements with these characters and more just plot! plot! plot!, which is actually really working for me. For example, I can't imagine myself feeling any more emotionally invested with Jesse than I did with his grief over Jane or the "Problem Dog"-ologue, so if the show now needs to become more about moving the chess pieces around the board, that's fine by me, especially since so far Gilligan and his team are waaaaay better at chess than those goofs from "Lost" (to pick an obvious example).


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    I always loved when Walt would get all MacGyver to solve a problem. I dig how this season both clever schemes were Jesse's idea while Walt wanted to use explosions and murder.

    I think Walt's behavior now casts suspicion on whether he ever had a genuine moral struggle. He's finally realized what the audience figured out a while ago, that the "I'm doing this for the right reasons!" stuff was really just rationalizing and trying to reconcile who he has found himself to be with his earlier conception of himself as a mild-mannered martyr. At this point current Walt has nothing but contempt for that castrated sap in his tighty-whities.
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    Yeah I'm loving Jesse's more developed brainpower this season. I think he's my favorite character.
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    that was a different show. it's the same actor but that's from friday night lights on nbc.


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    So was that.


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    so was his image I hope...

    I'm rooting for the triple shot


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