Apple talk

[Newt Floss]

There's some talk of a quiet update to the regular iPad in Oct alongside the mini announcement, maybe a different screen (IGZO or some shit? I dunno).

The updated regular iPad will have the new dock connector.

[John?]

Do you guys think they're going to start going widescreen with their iPads since they've done it for the iPhone and the Touch? Also, all future apps are going to look ugly on a square iPad now.

[isoS]

Nah, the aspect ratio of the ipad was already different from the iPhone, so the new iPhone won't prompt any change in the iPad. They didn't change the iPhone's screen because they wanted it to be 16x9, they changed it to increase real estate, but they didn't want to make the form factor bigger, so taller was the only way to go. (16x9 is a positive byproduct though.)

I think a lot of apps already have scrolling elements, so making the screen taller just shows you what you otherwise would've had to scroll down to see. Static screen apps can adjust pretty easily -- it's not unlike optimizing a website for different size monitors in many cases. Games that like their aspect ratio can just use the extra space for controls or menu items.

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[Liezl]

GODDAMN IT.. I have an iPhone 4, and some of the main things I've been looking forward to (turn by turn & panorama) are incompatible with my phone.

I've been waiting turn by turn to be integrated since I left my droid behind.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/18/ios-6-review/

[simpgeek]

Try out 'Waze', it's free. I don't drive (that's the new "I don't own a TV", right?) but I recently was using it to demo it for a friend and it seems to work really well these days. The more users it has the better it is for everyone.

[TimBuktu]

Waze has worked really well for me, and I use it quite a bit.

[TimBuktu]

Been fucking with ios 6 for about an hour. I like the panorama a lot, the maps are actually funtional and the directions work... and siri seems like it is a lot more accurate now.

[TimBuktu]

I also really like the ability to post directly to Twitter and Facebook from Siri. Siri also got the last two sentences correct on the first try.

[Liezl]

It looks like upgrading to an iphone 5 will leave me with a crap deal.

Verizon seems to have rid itself of all unlimited plans in favor of "share everything" plans, which may be a grand deal if I had a family.

If I want to keep my grandfathered plan of $75/month for unlimited everything, I'd have to pay $649 for the phone and continue paying month to month.

If I buy the phone for $200 on a new contract, I'll be paying a minimum of $110 for 2GB of data. Checking my data usage for this month, I've used over 5GB and I have a week to go. (I rarely have wifi on because it's awful in the office and I use pandora a lot in my car... also I'm a social media whore.)

Paying that much for a phone seems CRAZY... but then again so does paying $110 a month for a phone after having paid $75 forever.

Looks like I'm going to have to suck it up with this phone until it dies completely.

[isoS]

I wonder if hackers will figure out how to get stuff like turn by turn and panorama working on the iPhone 4. I'm sure the performance would be subpar, probably why Apple isn't allowing it, but didn't they get Siri working on the 4 after that came out? Or am I making that up?

I guess what I'm saying is you might be able to make it work... At least until you're free to jump to Sprint for the unlimited data. (and, I'm assuming, the terrible LTE coverage, which is one reason I'm not going that route.)

[Liezl]

Now looking over my past bills, it looks like my typical usage is more like 1.33 GB a month.

So now the more important question now is whether or not the 25% discount I get off my bill from working in retail will be grandfathered if I switch my plan.

[Newt Floss]

iOS 6 maps is craps.

[nathansmart]

Newt, how come?

[thegreg]

Lemme guess: no public transit or bike directions? That's why I hate it.

[nathansmart]

Ew, bad move.. no walking directions? or bus directions? fart

Well, I'm sure that'll change in future updates. For now, I'll use it for cars and Google for the bus when I'm using one.

[Americas Team]

I'm traveling a few times in the next two months. No walking, or mass transit, directions is a deal breaker. In LA they're nice to have but most the time I'm in my car. In other cities they're a necessity.

This seems like a misstep by Apple since I assume the iPhone is used in more urban areas where mass transit is used more often.

So now I have to fight the update urge until they come up with some sort of solution or until December when I'm done traveling.

[nathansmart]

Well, Google will still have their Maps app available in the app store so you can still have what you need. I don't know if it's there yet, but it's supposed to be.

[Darryl]

I updated my iPhone 4 (non-S) and my iPad 2 to iOS 6. Here's a few thoughts for my first day's worth of messing around:

Maps: Yes, Apple Maps is inferior to Google Maps in some significant ways, as mentioned above. Those don't affect me, so it's not a big deal. Since I have the 4 (non-S) iPhone, I also don't get GPS-like turn by turn navigation; I can't get rid of my Garmin yet! BUT, the step-by-step directions are superior to Google's. Very easy to read and easy to navigate; just swipe to go to the next direction. I honestly never use street view on my phone, but I occassionally used it on my iPad. Overall Maps is a slight downgrade for me but not a dealbreaker.

Photostream: LOVE IT. It should have worked this way from the beginning. I can choose specific photos to share with specific people. Here's a link to a short test gallery. (The link goes directly to the "slideshow" version.) Slight complaint: the initial image is blurry, but it sharpens up in a few seconds.

Music from iCloud: HUGE improvement because of one simple thing: streaming! Again, it should have been this way from the start. I hardly ever used music from my iCloud because I had to download the songs first. Now, just click and within about 5 seconds, it's playing. Also, full albums play almost (but not quite) gapless. There's just a slight millisecond hiccup between tracks, so it's not totally seamless, but way better than Spotify (which I love) and Amazon Cloud Player. This one feature alone makes my phone way more useful to me than before.

Text reply to phone calls: I love this feature. My old Palm Pre using WebOS had it, and I was surprised that the iPhone didn't. So... about time Apple! But glad it's here.

One alert/complaint: The new OS want's 2.4 Gigs free to install. It doesn't keep all that memory; you end up with as much free memory as you started with. But for folks with little free space, you'll have to delete some stuff to make room. My iPhone has only 8 gigs memory, so I had to delete a bunch of apps, turn off Photostream, and delete amost all the photos from my camera roll. Not a hug deal, since my camera roll and Photostream photos were saved to iCloud, and I can re-install any apps I deleted without charge. But be prepared for the inconvenience if you have less than 2.4 gigs free.

[RegularKarate]

Huh? I have the new OS installed and my Maps has walking and mass-transit directions. Where did you hear there wasn't?