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I agree with the central thesis of what you're saying, but I think you used exactly the wrong example. Tim Meadows 10 season tenure can be divided into two halves - the five years where he was hardly in the show (91-95) and the five years where he was a significant presence (95-00). Meadows is an example of a guy who stagnated a bit with a cast of standups but thrived when a part of a real ensemble cast. He actually got better with each season.Quote:
Originally Posted by ericluxury
Does the NY Daily News offer a bonus everytime you work 'reveler' into an article?
Seeing Sudeikis on the Webby awards, he was either sick or on some Lohan shit. His eyes looked bloodshot and he lost his place a few times.
Hopefully he is just bummed about not getting more credit for what he brought to SNL. It would suck if he was wrestling with something else (that is not the actual flu).
Sudeikis has been my favorite cast member for years, a versatile talent and utility man a la Phil Hartman. If he's gone (and why wouldn't he be at this point?), it's a real shame they didn't give him a better send-off. Fortunately, he can dry his tears on the ample bosom of whatever insanely hot lady he's with at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by scamboogah
Also, it should be noted that Jeff Beck remains one of the most unique guitar players alive. That guy straight up rules.
I was a little fearful of it as it was "white dudes playing slow blues" but you are correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Popinjay-Z
This isn't correct. When Phil Hartman left they let him do a goodbye thing that ended with him cradling a sleeping Farley while he sang "Goodbye... Goodbye... Goodbye". It's one of my favorite moments ever from SNL, because it makes me cry every single time.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillBrasky
But, I do agree they should have included the other departing members.
Yeah, and when Molly Shannon left, they had her performing with the SNL band as Mary Katherine Gallagher, singing "School's Out For Summer".
When Tina Fey and Jimmy Fallon left, they did the "Grease" production number which was even more elaborate than what they did for Kristen.
On Will Ferrell's last show, they had videotaped interviews with people giving their memories of Will ("Will Far-ELL"- Tracy Morgan)
So, we've concluded that that "source" (much like John Denver) is full of shit, man!
VH1 just reran the 02-03 finale with Host Dan Aykroyd, and during Update Chris Kattan did a farewell bit, doing a "terrible reenactment" of his own history on the show.
He may be a divisive cast member, but I think he did a pretty wide variety of styles and was sort of a bizarro utility player. Anyway. Buddy Mills 4 Lyfe.
(I can't.)
To be fair, their source was born in the aughties.
I know, because history experts all lived during the time periods they know about DIDN'T THEY
Weird.
'SNL' star Andy Samberg heading to UK sitcom next
Source: New York Post
LOS ANGELES -- "SNL" star Andy Samberg, who recently announced that he is leaving the show, also is planning his next project.
During a media day at Sunset Tower in Los Angeles for his film with Adam Sandler, "That's My Boy," the funnyman let slip that he will be joining the cast of a new BBC sitcom.
UK show "Cuckoo" will star Samberg as a lazy type who marries a British girl and struggles with his wife's overprotective dad.
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I feel like the no-Sudeikis-sendoff has to mean either that he's staying through the end of the presidential campaign OR that Lorne wants him to stay through the end of the presidential campaign and is pulling some bizarre "only people who leave when I want them to get sendoffs" bs.
Grand send-offs are really the exception and not the rule. People who have gotten something on the scale of Wiig are... well, really just Wiig. Ferrell's last show was a big deal for the whole show, and Hartman had that amazing moment with Chris Farley on his last show, but parading everyone on stage to pay their last respects was really unique. Will Forte really didn't get any kind of special goodbye, and he had been on the show for 8 years or something and played the president during that time. I love Sudeikis, and he's been one of my favorite cast members post-2000, probably second to Amy Poehler only, but it's possible he gets no send-off. Which only really sucks when put in the context that Wiig got the most lavish send-off in the show's history, and he had to participate in it.
That said, I do think it's possible he's in through the election. But, with the economy performing the way it has been, it's possible the candidate he'd be playing actually wins the election, in which case, he wouldn't stay on and they'd need to recast it anyway. So I don't know.
Meanwhile, it just occurred to me, I don't think we saw Armisen's Obama once in the past few months of this season. Not that I'm complaining, because they've never really nailed how to make him consistently funny, and their Romney stuff wasn't any better. It will make it interesting how the 2012 election is going to be on the show, considering this is always the time where SNL performs best and when the most people tune into see their take.
I think in the case of Will Forte, that was kind of a decision he made during the summer, as I recall, and he probably didn't end the season knowing that he wasn't coming back the following season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Umlaut
I think the only time they used Fred's Obama this season was the Cosby Show Obama sketch, which was a pretty clever use of the character. Seth and John Mulaney wrote that one.
Election years are a tricky thing if the candidates aren't interesting. In the 2000 election, they had all the Bush vs. Gore stuff to make fun of in the debate sketches, and they both had very definable characteristics (Bush's Texas yahoo-ness and Gore's uptight nerdiness). The 2004 election, on the other hand, wasn't interesting at all and they never got a firm grasp on what, if anything, was funny about John Kerry. The 2008 election, they had almost TOO much material to make fun of - Obama, John McCain, Sarah Palin, it was an embarassment of riches that election, which is probably why that was one of the best seasons in recent years. This election, I don't really know what they're going to find to make fun of, they've already kind of beaten the joke that Romney is boring to death. Unless Romney picks someone really crazy as his VP, or Obama decides to switch Vice Presidents during the convention (probably unlikely), I predict this election season might be kind of dull.
you reeealy want it to turn out like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by slothborn
And if you guys are turning to SNL for your political comedy youre doing it wrong..
Oh shut up.
You mean the Daily Show?Quote:
Originally Posted by benjo990
I recently sampled a few recent SNL's and found the political skits to be very up front (time wise), overly long and boring...Armisen does a decent Obama but the one where he does the SOTU speech (for the cold open) was way too long - I thought the point of the opening was to do a quick punchy thing and start the show off with a bang...