NNF Presents: Rock Solid Podcast Discussion thread

[Pat Francis]

Wasnt The 40-Year Old Boy technically the first NNF spinoff?

Yes but by default.

[akaJudge]

thanks for the non-itunes feed! can't wait to listen.

[aenemaTron]

Don't worry, it's been really easy to judge all of you for being old farts who think the best debuts were all released by giant record labels before the year 2000. I don't even need the years!

Music tastes tend to be based on what was popular (in your social group, anyway) during your teen years/early 20's. My tastes are just shifted 5-10 years ahead of yours.

(I didn't come here to fight about music, I came here because I love Pat and know that my music tastes are vastly different than most people here. Everyone listens to good music and Meatloaf is the best. Cheers!)

1. I didn't even post a list, I've just been bossing people around and being stupid.

2. I don't want to fight, I just want to make fun of people.

On that note, in no order (and as someone said, only bands at their peak - of quality if not popularity):
Quicksand - Slip
Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Pronounced Leh-Nerd Skin-Nerd
The Strokes - Is This It?
Wu-Tang - Enter the 36 Chambers

Was there any talk of bad debuts? I mean, comparatively? Because Rush's was a shameful Led Zeppelin rip-off that even Billy Squire thinks is over the top.

PS- For whatever reason, searching for "Rock Solid" in iTunes didn't work for me, but searching "Pat Francis" did.

[isoS]

Yeah, iTunes is having prob-lems this week. "No Title" is appearing for many shows with longer titles. This is probably affecting searches (I know over the weekend you could find it by searching Rock Solid, even though the Christian podcasts Solid Rock would appear first).

[aenemaTron]

After listening, I'll also offer two that fell off the bottom of the list:

The Toadies - Rubberneck

It's known for it's confusingly-titled single, Possum Kingdom, but it's a solid southern-ish rock record from beginning to end. Yes, it's very reminiscent of the Pixies in places, especially the song "Tyler" which includes a guitar lick/chord combo that sounds almost exactly like (but isn't) "Where Is My Mind?" But it's just good, who cares? They never did anything as good or interesting.



and because it wasn't them at their peak,

Blind Melon - S/T

Another one-hit wonder band that I found to have much more depth in their album than on the single. I think their second album, Soup, which bombed so hard the singer died, is even better and would probably appeal to people who thought the band sounded too hippy-ish.



The Cardigans and Marcy Playground are also bands who are way, way better and more interesting than their famous singles, though neither has done much of note lately.

[luvrhino]

Was there any talk of bad debuts? I mean, comparatively? Because Rush's was a shameful Led Zeppelin rip-off that even Billy Squire thinks is over the top.

That's my favorite Rush album. I'm not claiming that it's their most impressive or technically skilled. However, i find it the most enjoyable to listen to.

Of course, i prefer Led Zeppelin to Rush, which might account for this opinion.

[aenemaTron]

I don't mean to say it's objectively bad, but it's so derivative and far from where they ended up (their last album, in my mind, is Moving Pictures) that it stands out as a bad start.

[Fritz Zwicky]

In no particular order (and off the top of my head, so I'm probably forgetting great ones):

Violent Femmes: Violent Femmes

Tom Waits: Closing Time

Arcade Fire: Funeral

Ween: GodWeenSatan: The Oneness

Joe Jackson: Look Sharp!

[Batmaster1337]

My criteria for my top 5 were debut albums I could listen to front to back and love every single song on the album.

5) Does it Offend You, Yeah? - You Have No Idea What You're Getting Yourself Into (2008)
4) Panic at the Disco! - A Fever You Can't Sweat Out (2005)
3) Three Days Grace - Three Days Grace (2003)
2) Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine (1989)
1) Disturbed - The Sickness (2000)

[aenemaTron]

Very brave of you to post that.

edit: What's the song that says "oh ah ah ah ah!!!"?

[DiggityDawg]

Really enjoyed the debut episode - looking forward to more. Here's my stab at a list :

1. The Wildhearts : "Earth VS The Wildhearts"
2. The Knack : "Get The Knack"
3. TSAR : self-titled
4. Van Halen : self-titled
5. Marshall Crenshaw : self-titled

Other great ones :

Fastway : self-titled
Def Leppard : "On Through The Night"
Hawks : self-titled
Material Issue : "International Pop Overthrow"
Mother Love Bone : "Apple"
Motley Crue : "Too Fast For Love"
Young Heart Attack : "Mouthful Of Love"
60 Ft. Dolls : "The Big 3"

This is fudged a little, as some of these acts had EP's that preceded these debut long-plays.

[akaJudge]

I can't believe I'm listening to a music podcast by a guy that doesn't like Exile in Guyville.

[Pat Francis]

Here's a link to some internet press courtesy of the lovely Christine E. Taylor:
http://www.christineetaylor.com/2011...-nnf-gary.html

[isoS]

Refresh those feeds, Episode 2 is here!

http://rocksolid.libsyn.com/

[Batman The Horse]

New week but here's my "debuts" list:

Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates
A Place to Bury Strangers - S/T
Company Flow - Funcrusher+
Gang of Four - Entertainment!
Wire - Pink Flag

[James Morris]

I was ready for Pat to choose Cheap Trick's first album. Let down.

I'm very excited about this show, and how it will evolve.

[Kon Darp]

My criteria for my top 5 were debut albums I could listen to front to back and love every single song on the album.

5) Does it Offend You, Yeah? - You Have No Idea What You're Getting Yourself Into (2008)
4) Panic at the Disco! - A Fever You Can't Sweat Out (2005)
3) Three Days Grace - Three Days Grace (2003)
2) Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine (1989)
1) Disturbed - The Sickness (2000)

Even I think this is silly.

A Fever You Can't Sweat Out is my favorite Fall Out Boy album. PATD changed for the better after that, honestly.

[luvrhino]

Royal Rumble suggestions:

1. Come Together

a. Beatles/Aerosmith/Tina Turner/Cassandra Wilson/etc.
b. MC5
c. Blur and other versions i haven't heard of
d. Poi Dog Pondering

Poi Dog Pondering's Come Together is among my very favorite songs...probably Top 25 if i bothered to rank them. FYI, Badfinger's Day After Day would be among my Top 75.

2. Hold On has been used a lot:

a. En Vogue
b. Wilson Phillips
c. John Lennon
d. Sarah McLachlan
e. Catie Curtis
f. Yes
g. KT Tunstall
h. New Kids on the Block
...
(see this link for more)

I really like the harmonies on the Wilson Phillips version, regardless how cheezy and overplayed that song is.

Aside from Hold On, Crazy, there are a crazy number of different songs named Angel. This site would be useful for future fights (though it's not remotely comprehensive):

http://www.amiright.com/music-trivia...ifferent-song/

[Pat Francis]

Not because it sucks?

:-( OR :-0

[DiggityDawg]

Apologies if this is mentioned in episode 2, as I haven't yet listened. Is there a set day that new episodes will be ready for download?