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    Jaime Kennedy's "Heckler"


    Reviewing a movie like "Heckler" feels like a set-up.

    I am a legitimate critic reviewing a pre-release DVD screener provided by the film's producers. But what makes me legitimate? I wouldn't be writing this if they hadn't sent me the disc.

    What does this have to do with heckling, anyway? Nothing. The first half-or-so of the movie is dedicated to brief clips of comics discussing memorable instances of hecklers interrupting their sets interspersed with footage of hecklers in action. This part of the film is sporadically amusing, featuring a broad variety of talented stand-up comics such as Nick Swardson, David Cross, Andy Kindler, Eugene Mirman and Paul F. Tompkins (see the "Heckler" IMDB page for a full listing), and concludes that hecklers are usually drunk and losing a difficult battle with the very strong impulse (as Maria Bamford confirms) to join in and shout things out.



    "Please don't do it anymore" say the comics.

    I'd have appreciated more in-depth interviews and more investigation into the psychology of heckling, including more discussion about what it is about stand-up comedy that attracts this kind of behavior. I fully admit I am spoiled by the treatment these topics receive on the "Comedy and Everything Else" podcast (co-hosted by "Heckler" commentator Todd Glass). But to be fair, the movie is called "Heckler".

    Following a few clips of Kennedy bombing with hacky material about the negativity of country music he invites a couple of very ballsy disgruntled "fans" to come backstage and critique his set. What this proves I have no idea, except that maybe when you invite people to be rude to you while appearing in a movie, they'll do it.



    Unfortunately the "heckle" portion of the film ends about a half hour in and is followed the "critic" portion, which largely features critically maligned filmmakers like Joel Schumacher offering clichéd attacks on film critics. At least Kevin Smith had the good sense to bash unqualified internet critics through his misguided, dopey film duo Jay and Silent Bob.

    'You're a frustrated failure.' 'What have you ever done?' 'Until you do what I do you can't criticize.' 'You're a fat kid in a basement.' 'You're just a guy on the internet.'

    Well, I am just a guy on the internet. I have written some pretty mean things about bad movies. But nowhere in "Heckler" does Jamie Kennedy mention that reviews are not written for the people who made the work. If you are a filmmaker or performer and you go on the record bitching about critics, you do yourself a disservice. People aren't even very sympathetic about the paparazzi, and those people actually invade privacy and take naked pictures. Don't even start with critics—it all sounds like the teacher's pet griping about an A-minus.

    Despite numerous attempts, Jaime Kennedy fails to bait Carrot Top, who comes off as a total class act. The last half of the film, however, is full of major entertainers embarrassing themselves in this way. Also, Arsenio Hall does it. There is a segment that shows straight-to-DVD video game adaptation king Uwe Boll challenging his critics to a boxing match. I applaud this ultimate escalation of the dreaded argument "oh yeah??" to the final word on art, "I punch you!"



    Insanely successful film producer Peter Guber says it best: "If you're making 'Earthquake 7' ... you don't care- when they say they give you two thumbs up, way up, way way up or down at all, because you know what the kids are saying? I want to see those CGI effects. I want to hear that noise."

    For what it's worth, that's actually pretty close to the truth of the matter. You can't read your own reviews. You can't let it invade your own art. Publicizing your work is supposed to be for the common entertainment, not some kind of self-indulgent circle-jerk of criticism and self-loathing. If you've made "Earthquake VII" then you already don't care, anyway.

    Maybe Kennedy could have offered some solution for entertainers trying to wean themselves from reading their own press. A movie about the psychology of internet commentators might be interesting. But this movie is just taking the bait. It's exactly what hecklers and juvenile internet critics want—acknowledgement. The toothless, wounded whining is the exact opposite of a comic's withering takedown, which the movie really needed to be.

    Oh, and hi, Jaime. Best of luck to you, guy.
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    Nice review. I always like to hear comics talk about experiences with hecklers, so I'll probably end up watching this even though I don't expect to hear anything new or interesting about hecklers.

    And I watched the Carrot Top interview on Youtube a while back, and it made my already intense hatred for Kennedy grow. You are absolutely right about him trying to bait Carrot Top. He really came off as a dick, even if he was reading other people's comments.



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    Quote Originally Posted by aenemaTron View Post
    Oh, and hi, Jaime. Best of luck to you, guy.
    Ha! How meta -- I love it.

    There does seem to be a lot of misunderstanding about the role that critics play. Fundamentally, they're no different than a trusted friend recommending some movie/comic/whatever or telling you to steer clear. We don't have infinite time to consume all the content the world produces, so a critic with the same sensibilities as you is a real time-saver.



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    I watched about 6 minutes of Jamie Kennedy's special on Comedy Central a couple of months back during which he asked "What if Harry Potter were gay?" followed by "Hey Ron? Wanna see my magic wand?".

    Nothing he has to say has value.
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    Re: Jaime Kennedy's "Heckler"

    Quote Originally Posted by Marty_Malt View Post
    I watched about 6 minutes of Jamie Kennedy's special on Comedy Central a couple of months back during which he asked "What if Harry Potter were gay?" followed by "Hey Ron? Wanna see my magic wand?".

    Nothing he has to say has value.
    Stop heckling!
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    Wow, this seems even more whiney than Jay Mohr's "Gasping for Airtime"



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    Re: Jaime Kennedy's "Heckler"

    I saw Jamie Kennedy on Premium Blend...awful. But anyway, I like the point you made about Carrot Top, he seems like a class act, which he does on everything I've seen him on (haven't seen him much so I could be wrong about this). I don't know why he is still a punchline... 1. its hacky to make a carrot top joke 2. hes not a stand up, hes a pop comic, so why is he a threat to stand ups? 3. he's the best at what he does
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    Re: Jaime Kennedy's "Heckler"

    This didn't look so good a year and a half ago when the trailer was released. What took him so long? Music rights??



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    Re: Jaime Kennedy's "Heckler"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryebread View Post
    This didn't look so good a year and a half ago when the trailer was released. What took him so long? Music rights??
    funny rights



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    Re: Jaime Kennedy's "Heckler"

    Quote Originally Posted by TenJay View Post
    funny rights
    More like funny wrongs!!



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    Re: Jaime Kennedy's "Heckler"

    So a comedian goes on to make a full feature documentary about one of the biggest nuisances to his job? that would be like me doing a documentary on the infected salad bar here at Chucke Cheese.



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    Chucke Cheese deserves it's own thread.
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    I'm dying to see this, I've got it netflix'd.

    I think I'd appreciate it more if Jamie Kennedy didn't make it. His standup stinks. And I can say that, because I do what he does.



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    Nice review, Tron. I normally try not to read reviews or opinions on films I haven't seen but I decided to take a chance when seeing "Jaime Kennedy's...". I will still watch this (and with an unbiased opinion) but reading a well-written negative review that highlights all the things I hoped I wouldn't see leaves me with the hope that Carrot Top will finally make a movie better.



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    Re: Jaime Kennedy's "Heckler"

    The aforementioned trailer from a year ago seemed to be a good representation based on your criticism. It did, however, cover one thing you didn't mentioned – the brunt of Kennedy's argument against criticism of his horrific movies and television shows seemed to be that he has received fellatio more times than the internet nerds who criticize him. Touché Mr. Kennedy, we have all obviously misjudged you.

    Is this still in the movie? HE EMBARRASSES AWKWARD NERDS ON FILM, BY ASKING THEM IF THEY HAVE EVER HAD SEX, BECAUSE THEY GAVE THEIR OPINIONS OF HIS MOVIES.

    I remember High School bullies doing the same thing to a friend of mine -- not me, of course -- I'm talking about my nerdy friend.



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    Re: Jaime Kennedy's "Heckler"

    I liked his standup when I saw him live.



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    Re: Jaime Kennedy's "Heckler"

    Quote Originally Posted by Shane View Post
    I like the point you made about Carrot Top, he seems like a class act, which he does on everything I've seen him on (haven't seen him much so I could be wrong about this). I don't know why he is still a punchline... 1. its hacky to make a carrot top joke 2. hes not a stand up, hes a pop comic, so why is he a threat to stand ups? 3. he's the best at what he does
    It seems like people really turned on him when he got all prison buff and insane looking...someone at the Flava Flav roast commented on his new muscles and called him "The Incredible Hack", which I thought was funny.

    Top laughed all the way to his mega-mansion and horde of Aryan sex slaves.

    Nice review, aenemaTron, I'm gonna watch this if only to see the comics talk about their heckler stories for 30 minutes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinLee View Post
    Chucke Cheese deserves it's own thread.
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    I prefer to call him Charles. He's all grown up now, no more with the Chuck E.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nathansmart View Post
    I prefer to call him Charles. He's all grown up now, no more with the Chuck E.
    I heard he started making all the other band members call him "Mister Cheese". He's all business now. Franchising really ruined that band.



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