PDA

View Full Version : Last Comic Standing


Pages : [1] 2

TimBuktu
July 11, 2008, 9:08 AM
Holy shit is Last Comic Standing unwatchable now. I can't believe they let that Esther Ku in over so many funnier, more experienced comedians. Her set last night was embarrassing... She barely has 3 minutes of material.

God's Pottery is also funny for about 5 minutes, and then they are simply flat out annoying... especially on a show like this. They are a one joke group, and the joke gets old fast. I know some people here like them, but once you've seen them do one song, you've seen the entire schtick. I was cringing during the boxing ring segment, and when they were interacting with other comics....

I was really, really pissed last night because there were so many people that were far more deserving that never made it to the house. I know they were casting for the house, and not picking the best comics, but the best comics could have at least brought some laughs to the segments... As it was, it was about 2 hours of completely unfunny television.

pollymaepry
July 11, 2008, 12:55 PM
I was crushed to see God's Pottery go. They brought an ounce of levity to something that keeps screaming "FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!"

TenJay
July 11, 2008, 1:17 PM
Hopefully the exposure GP has received is enough to get them booked all over the country, they are a swell pair

charles star
July 11, 2008, 4:28 PM
God's Pottery is also funny for about 5 minutes, and then they are simply flat out annoying... especially on a show like this. They are a one joke group, and the joke gets old fast. I know some people here like them, but once you've seen them do one song, you've seen the entire schtick. I was cringing during the boxing ring segment, and when they were interacting with other comics....
I thought the boxing ring was much funnier than their song. If only because Ron G looked genuinely angry at them. That guy can't get kicked out soon enough.

It was pretty clear that the rest of the house didn't want to have to deal with those guys being 'on' all the time.

Did Iliza Schlesinger really not connect lying to Ku with her getting called out? She seems smarter than that. Who was Ku supposed to pick?

vheath
July 11, 2008, 4:48 PM
Did Iliza Schlesinger really not connect lying to Ku with her getting called out? She seems smarter than that. Who was Ku supposed to pick?

I was thinking the exact same thing....and Ku didn't really acknowledge (after the fact) that that was the reason either.

Scammy Davis Boogah Jr.
July 11, 2008, 5:06 PM
I've never seen a final 10 on LCS so pathetically awful.

At this point, the house is divided into three segments; People I actively hate (Marcus, Adam Hunter, Schlesinger, Ron G), People I feel sorry for because they've got 2 minutes of material and are going to embarrass themselves (Papa CJ, Dye, Foot) and finally People who are probably better than this, but still come across as mediocre (Cullen, Ramey, Tavare).

My favorite part of last night's episode was when all the comics were sitting back stage talking about what a one trick pony Esther Ku was, and Papa CJ is NODDING IN AGREEMENT. That's the kind of irony you just can't buy, not even from customer service in India.

Oh, and it was nice to see Jon Reep just mentioning rednecks win the 'Best Joke Ever' award.

BillBrasky
July 11, 2008, 8:08 PM
What is everyone's problem with Marcus? Do people really hate impressionists that much?
So far, I haven't seen him do anything to inspire so much hatred. He's done a reasonably funny routine about "Willy Wonka", and some pretty accurate impressions. I laughed at him doing his Christopher Walken, talking about Esther Ku's laugh.

I'm kind of hoping he wins actually, because I have tickets to see the "Last Comic Standing" tour in Orlando in December, and I'm sort of dreading it if it means having to sit through Papa CJ or Ron G.

Edit: I should stress that really I would like Sean Cullen to win, but since he's the funniest, I doubt he will.

darrylduffy
July 11, 2008, 9:10 PM
What is everyone's problem with Marcus? Do people really hate impressionists that much?
So far, I haven't seen him do anything to inspire so much hatred. He's done a reasonably funny routine about "Willy Wonka", and some pretty accurate impressions. I laughed at him doing his Christopher Walken, talking about Esther Ku's laugh.

i've only seen parts of 2 episodes, so maybe not the best judge, but i'll tell you my opinion regardless. i don't know how long marcus has been performing, but his stage persona seems to borrow very heavily (down to the delivery) from dave attell. maybe he's still pretty new and is just aping attell, i don't know. for other people, the impressions may remind them of dante. and, walken impressions are kinda overkill.

i'm not qualified to give this kind of analysis!

aenemaTron
July 11, 2008, 10:31 PM
this is its own thread now/again.


I'm not watching, and I've only seen God's Pottery once, but I do think it's a one-joke thing that shouldn't have been on the show. Sketch people maybe, but this, it just doesn't really make sense.

punkdc
July 11, 2008, 10:51 PM
I thought the boxing ring was much funnier than their song.

That's what I thought. I also it was a very creative way to spin those jokes. Sad to see them go, just for the sheer fact watching them do challenges would have been funny. Also congrats to Todd Glass at #9 for best joke.

Shane
July 11, 2008, 11:42 PM
I don't know what it is about Paul Foot, but he makes me giggle like a little girl. What a ridiculous person

Embiggen
July 11, 2008, 11:47 PM
I'm sad to see God's Pottery go, mainly because they were the funniest thing happening in the house and in the boxing challenge, but then again if I were the audience during the elimination show and all I had to go on was that one song, I would have voted for Iliza to win, too. GP certainly can be funny, and their commitment to their characters is amazing, but a lot of the songs are lacking in jokes, or have titles that are the only punchlines in the songs. For the most part, once they announce the name of the song, that's the biggest laugh they get during its performance.

Also, I have a fair amount of hate in my heart for Papa CJ, and yet I've found myself saying "I know what you're thinking..." in an Indian accent a lot recently, and that makes me laugh. I guess that counts for something. Any comic with the balls to tag all their jokes by telling the audience that he knows what they're thinking deserves credit for at least being blissfully ignorant of what constitutes hacky comedy.

"I know what you're thinking, sir -- 'He's going to die!'" No. No he wasn't thinking that. Why would he be thinking that? Because you insulted Camilla Parker Bowles in the US?

rabbitandox
July 12, 2008, 12:12 AM
All of GP's sets have made them seem like one trick ponies, so I was surprised when they actually started to grow on me last night. I'm a sucker for any joke with a Harry Potter reference in it. And I loved that Ron G was so pissed that he called them "Dumb and Dumber" from backstage during their set. With GP gone, Sean Cullen is all that interests me anymore. I've been laughing at "and a Pilgrim fell out!" all week.

punkdc
July 12, 2008, 12:36 AM
Any comic with the balls to tag all their jokes by telling the audience that he knows what they're thinking deserves credit for at least being blissfully ignorant of what constitutes hacky comedy.

Hacky comedy hasn't reached India yet.

Darryl
July 12, 2008, 12:41 AM
I loved God's Pottery right away, but thought their act would get stale pretty quick. I wasn't sure how they could keep up the "one joke" act and keep it funny.

It turns out, I was surprised to find them laugh-out-loud funny every time they performed, and most other times they were on-screen.

Certainly a lot of the reason is that I spent a lot of my life involved in churches, and saw many acts -- I mean ministers -- who did what GP did, only in earnest. It's a part of culture ripe for satire, and they get it so right so right often that is keeps me laughing. I'm not arguing against their elimination; in this setting I didn't expect them to last long. But if they ever come near my neck of the woods, I'd certainly go see them live.

BillBrasky
July 12, 2008, 4:22 AM
I read this on another message board, and I think it's true- maybe the best forum for God's Pottery is on a half-hour Flight of the Conchords type show on HBO, not on LCS.
If they had a show where they could do their songs, mixed with Borat-type segments interacting with the public in character, that would be great. But what they do isn't really standup, so they didn't belong on this show.

Paul Foot even seemed to be saying this when he said he'd rather see them in a sitcom than have to live with them in person in the house.

suavepebble
July 12, 2008, 4:37 AM
Watching this show makes me feel almost exactly like the way I felt when I found out that my car was stolen

floedout
July 12, 2008, 11:21 AM
I hope I don't hear any more variations of you-are-fat-cows-are-scared-in-India...

I want to like this show so much, but have resorted to tivo to actually watch the 10 minutes of comedy. There seems to be a lot of hype on the comics but not a lot of follow through in material.

brewcaster
July 12, 2008, 7:05 PM
I still find some entertainment from this show. I actually kind of like the backstage critiquing of the sets.

Papa CJ makes me cry in bed for the future of stand-up comedy. I swear he is exaggerating that accent. Waiting for him to say, "I know what you are thinking, Who let Apu on stage...?!?!?" (exaggerated accent) "THANK YOU, COME AGAIN!" (insert turn around about India taking American's jobs and/or women)

As much as I love self-deprecation, there is a pretty huge line where it crosses over into obnoxious and lazy instead of coming up with good material.

Are they really bringing Carrot Top next week? They have balls, HUGE steroid balls.

BillBrasky
July 12, 2008, 7:43 PM
Next week they're having a prop competition, judged by Carrot Top....

AND THEY VOTED THE ISRAELI PROP GUY OFF THE SHOW??? Smart thinking, guys.

drieux
July 12, 2008, 7:55 PM
Carrot Top?!? Carrot Top?!?

Having Carrot Top judge comedy is like...well, having Carrot Top judge comedy.

Whoever thinks up these challenges has never thought about comedy, ever.

charles star
July 12, 2008, 8:37 PM
Week one: Comic uses Carrot Top as a reference for hack during the dozens challenge.
Week two: Carrot Top is the celebrity judge.

Papa CJ makes my blood boil. His act is pure ethnic minstrelsy, he manages to be more smug than Dane Cook filtered through Dante and his jokes don't have even a flickering moment of honesty. To me the worst part of the his 'mama's so fat' joke was the exaggerated Commedia dell'Arte bowing and flourish with his hands as he said "in my country ... COWS ... are SACRED!"

extrafacelol
July 12, 2008, 8:46 PM
well, i think this show is STUPID

TimBuktu
July 12, 2008, 9:49 PM
I just don't get why they think having the funniest comedians on the show isn't a good idea. More people would watch if it was actually funny. Do they really think casting it as a reality show is a bigger draw than mining the material of experienced comics? Routines that have been refined over years... No, we prefer the cute asian girl who only lasts an episode.

drieux
July 12, 2008, 9:59 PM
It's the same reason that 99 percent of the shows that get on the air are a schlubby dude with a hot wife and the <i>crrraaaaazy</i> situations and neighbors they deal with! Whoooo! And why 99.9 percent of THOSE shows are gone within eight episodes, and the few that survive have creators/writers/producers who try to take a different angle with it.

Maybe someday executives will think, "hey, let's just try to have a comedy show that's as funny as possible" or "maybe more people will watch a sitcom if we don't spend every minute thinking they're too dumb to understand anything," but probably not.

Of course, "According to Jim" comes back year after year and gets decent ratings, so I guess I don't know much.

Ku getting an early target on her back was no surprise. CJ is sure to be on the block soon, as is Shlesinger. Dye, while seeming like a super-nice guy who I do find funny, is pretty green and probably won't have the material to go the distance - but something tells me he's gonna be just fine.

Shane
July 12, 2008, 10:10 PM
I saw God's Pottery live when Mike Birbiglia had them as his super secret guest on his secret public journal tour live. They were more than entertaining for 15-20 minutes but I just can't see them as a headlining act, or maintaining the intial laughs they get because of their character

Embiggen
July 12, 2008, 10:55 PM
Week one: Comic uses Carrot Top as a reference for hack during the dozens challenge.
Week two: Carrot Top is the celebrity judge.

Papa CJ makes my blood boil. His act is pure ethnic minstrelsy, he manages to be more smug than Dane Cook filtered through Dante and his jokes don't have even a flickering moment of honesty. To me the worst part of the his 'mama's so fat' joke was the exaggerated Commedia dell'Arte bowing and flourish with his hands as he said "in my country ... COWS ... are SACRED!"

That's exactly it. I initially thought that his entire exposure to the English language and to standup comedy must have been a single tape of a generic 80s comic's routine, and I assumed that he studied it alone in his bedroom in front of a mirror until he had mastered the mannerisms of a "comedian". Then I read his bio and found out that he has an MBA from Oxford. He's no stranger to the English language or western culture, which makes his act all the more minstrel-y.

GymShoes
July 13, 2008, 12:34 AM
I keep trying to come to terms with this show, but I just can't. I understand the "diversity" angle, but for some reason, I just don't believe that if Papa CJ wasn't on the show, Indian people would be disappointed. And I don't think there are Korean families in the U.S. that wouldn't watch the show if Esther Ku wasn't on. Funny is funny. I'm color-blind god damnit. Color-blind. I remember watching the Cosby show and loving every epsiode, even if Rudy's white friend Peter didn't make an appearance.

And I don't see what the show has to gain by using comics who couldn't headline on their own. If every finalist on every season of LCS was seasoned and funny enough to headline, and then did so after their season was over, that show and the comics on it would have a much better reputation.

Marty_Malt
July 13, 2008, 11:54 AM
Color-blind. I remember watching the Cosby show and loving every epsiode, even if Rudy's white friend Peter didn't make an appearance.



I just watched the episode where Dr. Huxtable bounces Peter on his knee. HI-LARIOUS!

DOOM
July 13, 2008, 1:16 PM
I can't seem to find a link to the newest episode. Anyone have a streaming link?

Shane
July 13, 2008, 5:13 PM
I can't seem to find a link to the newest episode. Anyone have a streaming link?

hulu.com is going to have it up on july 18th i believe

suavepebble
July 13, 2008, 6:43 PM
I like Jim Tavare a lot. This means, of course, that he will be kicked off immediately. Sorry Jim.

KeithTalent
July 13, 2008, 11:13 PM
This post is too long.

I'm glad I don't have to hear Steve Schirripa talk anymore. What a fucking dunce. The man needed a ghostwriter to complete the Goomba's Guide to Life. I blame him for Mary Mack not making it.

That awful infant Ron G. getting all furious was one of the best moments on the show so far. I hope he falls off a bridge.

I loved watching God's Pottery. Can't believe they got the least votes, Ku's set was dreadful. Nearly every camera address of theirs was good for a chuckle, their "snaps" were good (or at least better than average - that challenge was trimmed down so much I have to wonder how bad the excised jokes could have been. Is it even possible to write a "yo mama" bit worse than Ku's?) and their last song killed it. I really enjoyed seeing the audience sing along about how much they love Jesus - ironically. I wonder how fundamentalists feel about those guys. Probably the same way they feel about most everything else.

Iliza Shlesinger is smart to emphasize the fact that she's fuckable. She obviously packed a lot of cleavagey shirts. Her whole laughless routine sort of felt like "hey look at my ass" but I may just be a degenerate.

I liked Jim Tavare much better before the house. He seems like a prick. He shouldn't have won the insult competition at all, his slams on God's Pottery sounded like a guy who's not as clever as he thinks he is trying hard not to look defensive with a heckler. If GP had written one really brutal out-of-character slam for the end it would have been funny and they'd have won.

Marcus' Wonka bit was lame but he hasn't made me hate him yet. That blonde guy on the other hand...well I can't remember his name.

Dye is pale. I don't enjoy Louis Ramey very much but he seems like a pro. I'd like to see Foot have another fit. Papa CJ is the sound of styrofoam rubbing together. Did I mention that Ron G is not just unfunny but a terrible human being?

Sean Cullen really needs to win this. I don't suppose that's likely. I reckon America will find him uppity, what with all the enunciation.

Ravi
July 13, 2008, 11:55 PM
That's exactly it. I initially thought that his entire exposure to the English language and to standup comedy must have been a single tape of a generic 80s comic's routine, and I assumed that he studied it alone in his bedroom in front of a mirror until he had mastered the mannerisms of a "comedian". Then I read his bio and found out that he has an MBA from Oxford. He's no stranger to the English language or western culture, which makes his act all the more minstrel-y.

To paraphrase Seinfeld, Papa CJ doesn't offend me as an Indian, he offends me as a comedian.

Maybe the MBA is the problem. The business part of him thinks (knows?) that a "minstrel-y" act will get laughs.

suavepebble
July 14, 2008, 1:57 AM
This post is too long.

I'm glad I don't have to hear Steve Schirripa talk anymore. What a fucking dunce. The man needed a ghostwriter to complete the Goomba's Guide to Life. I blame him for Mary Mack not making it.

That awful infant Ron G. getting all furious was one of the best moments on the show so far. I hope he falls off a bridge.

I loved watching God's Pottery. Can't believe they got the least votes, Ku's set was dreadful. Nearly every camera address of theirs was good for a chuckle, their "snaps" were good (or at least better than average - that challenge was trimmed down so much I have to wonder how bad the excised jokes could have been. Is it even possible to write a "yo mama" bit worse than Ku's?) and their last song killed it. I really enjoyed seeing the audience sing along about how much they love Jesus - ironically. I wonder how fundamentalists feel about those guys. Probably the same way they feel about most everything else.

Iliza Shlesinger is smart to emphasize the fact that she's fuckable. She obviously packed a lot of cleavagey shirts. Her whole laughless routine sort of felt like "hey look at my ass" but I may just be a degenerate.

I liked Jim Tavare much better before the house. He seems like a prick. He shouldn't have won the insult competition at all, his slams on God's Pottery sounded like a guy who's not as clever as he thinks he is trying hard not to look defensive with a heckler. If GP had written one really brutal out-of-character slam for the end it would have been funny and they'd have won.

Marcus' Wonka bit was lame but he hasn't made me hate him yet. That blonde guy on the other hand...well I can't remember his name.

Dye is pale. I don't enjoy Louis Ramey very much but he seems like a pro. I'd like to see Foot have another fit. Papa CJ is the sound of styrofoam rubbing together. Did I mention that Ron G is not just unfunny but a terrible human being?

Sean Cullen really needs to win this. I don't suppose that's likely. I reckon America will find him uppity, what with all the enunciation.


I am going to defend Jim Tavare in this post.

I think you were too hard on 'ol Tavare in regards to his "yo mama joke" performance. Why? Because the initial premise is bullshit and professional comedians shouldn't be put in a position where they have an hour to write a bunch of "yo mama" jokes. God's pottery was lucky in that their schtick allows them to mock the format. That's the only reason they were in the final two. Poor Tavare, probably the least likely guy to even be in the final two in a "yo mama joke" contest, was put in an awkward situation to say the least. Would any self-respecting comedian want to really do that? Really? You could argue that it's a formula as valid as any other writing exercise... but come on, fuck that. Yo mama jokes so stupid they eat grandma farts on the one day of the year (May 3rd) it's illegal to do that in Kentucky (and the yo mama jokes are IN Kentucky!)

punkdc
July 14, 2008, 2:11 AM
Now there is a funny young man from SF named Jasper Redd who won a 'yo mama' contest but he's seems to be off the cuff so there is some credit here.

Ps. If Eddie P got on it would have gone a little like this "My momma is so fat that..."

KeithTalent
July 14, 2008, 5:39 PM
I am going to defend Jim Tavare in this post.

I think you were too hard on 'ol Tavare in regards to his "yo mama joke" performance. Why? Because the initial premise is bullshit and professional comedians shouldn't be put in a position where they have an hour to write a bunch of "yo mama" jokes. God's pottery was lucky in that their schtick allows them to mock the format. That's the only reason they were in the final two. Poor Tavare, probably the least likely guy to even be in the final two in a "yo mama joke" contest, was put in an awkward situation to say the least. Would any self-respecting comedian want to really do that? Really? You could argue that it's a formula as valid as any other writing exercise... but come on, fuck that. Yo mama jokes so stupid they eat grandma farts on the one day of the year (May 3rd) it's illegal to do that in Kentucky (and the yo mama jokes are IN Kentucky!)


Oh I agree (next week's prop challenge promises to be even worse) and I do like his polished material. Maybe I was being unfair on account of he seems such a cock in the house. Reality television makes fools of us all.

johnny radpants
July 15, 2008, 4:24 AM
Y'all haterz

Shane
July 17, 2008, 9:41 PM
Sean Cullen is absolutely hilarious, everything he said on this week's episode made me almost pee my pants. "Grandpa, stop answering the toaster!" I think Marcus got a bad rap just because he does impressions, and I'm so glad he didn't do any the last time they showed him do stand-up, and even though props are hacky, he was by far the second funniest next to Sean.

Is Illiza not the female dane cook? I can't wait until I see andy kindler's impression of her.

how did ron g. not get any votes? he's awful...

slapstickeulogist
July 18, 2008, 1:37 AM
Sad to see Foot go. He made me laugh, that silly man.

At this point I'm rooting for Sean Cullen but I'd be happy with Tavare or Ramey.

Darryl
July 18, 2008, 6:30 AM
Yeah, Illiza has confidence and timing and just plain "pushes through." Someone like her can get an audience to laugh just by getting them into her rhythm, regardless if whether what she saying is actually funny. Robin Williams was good at that too. And yes, Dane Cook, who I confess does make me laugh as long as I don't deconstruct him too much, because he gets me to like him somehow. Maybe he reminds me of an old friend or something. As far as Illiza... I knew she would win the challenges just based on her ability to connect with the audience. But I don't connect with her, and to me she does not come across as likable or endearing, but rather somewhat grating. Oh well, to each his own.

Paul Foot is talented, but sometimes its hard to know how much of his nervousness is the act and how much is real. The hopping around stuff probably plays better live than on TV, since TV probably magnifies it too much. His bits are funny, but I think he could chop out about half of his set-ups and his routines would flow better and get more reaction. I do find him immensely likable though, and I hope we will see more of him.

Ron G. Never liked him. Don't know how he got to the semis over some obviously better comics. Don't like him now. Have no clue what he is still doing there.

The prop comedy challenge was certainly tough, but a few of them really came through. In the context of the challenge there was funny stuff, but I don't think they should add it to their acts any time soon.

I'm glad I TiFaux it, though. The repetition wasted time take up half of the show.

brewcaster
July 18, 2008, 8:43 AM
I slept much better last night.

RIP Papa CJ.

DiscoInferiorityComplex
July 18, 2008, 10:22 AM
how did ron g. not get any votes? he's awful...

Ron G's entire reputation is pretty much built on how well he did on another Bill Bellamy-hosted comedy competition, TVOne's "Who's Got Jokes". He's pretty much excels at 3-4 minute sets that will kill in front of a crowd comprised of tourists rounded up off the streets of Universal Citywalk.

Darryl
July 18, 2008, 10:43 AM
I slept much better last night.

RIP Papa CJ.


Speaking of...

He tried some bit that was greeted with silence, after which he fell back on something tried and true (meaning: we have seen before.) Does anyone know what he was even trying to say? It was something abut weapons of mass destruction, but "instead it should be weapons of ass destruction" or something like that. My daughter and I both looked at each other and had no clue what the attemped joke was even supposed to be. Any clues?

bjmoner
July 18, 2008, 11:04 AM
Speaking of...

He tried some bit that was greeted with silence, after which he fell back on something tried and true (meaning: we have seen before.) Does anyone know what he was even trying to say? It was something abut weapons of mass destruction, but "instead it should be weapons of ass destruction" or something like that. My daughter and I both looked at each other and had no clue what the attemped joke was even supposed to be. Any clues?
I'm not really sure WHAT that whole Iraq sequence was all about. "Curry spelled backwards is Iraq"??? Yay for Oxford education!

As my wife put it, "Papa CJ has a SERIOUS case of the 'Dat Phans.'" His best material is about being Indian, and running through the bits about taking American jobs and screwing American women doesn't exactly play well in a crowd where people are getting kicked by the economy. You could feel the crowd thinking, "This poor guy in the front row has got to be pissed."

Comedians, take note ... in a large room, with a limited bit, do your material. You don't have time to make the "audience connection" in a four minute set. His act would be infinitely better if he set up a character in his bit to be the comedic foil to him being Indian. Hell, he could even name him "Dante."

Paul Foot will have a great career if he can break into screenwriting in Britain. I love that little man, but he was seriously out of his element.

charles star
July 18, 2008, 11:35 AM
I'm not really sure WHAT that whole Iraq sequence was all about. "Curry spelled backwards is Iraq"??? Yay for Oxford education!

Iraq backwards is Qari --> Curry gives you the shits --> Weapons of ass destruction. [Extended silence ensues] Also, his extended cunnilingus bit made me cringe. A lot.

I weep for the audiences in London that he returns to - because he sure as hell hasn't lived in India for a long time now. I appreciated that when Louis Ramey and Ron G were discussing the strategy over pool they referred to the "three Londoners" as the most vulnerable.

Paul Foot has some amusing observations and his stage presence is endearing but he is also scattered and ill-suited to that large a crowd. His neurosis seems to require intimacy with the audience. Put him in an arena and he gets swallowed up completely.

I feel bad for Iliza Schlesinger now because she seems to be taking getting challenged personally, though she shouldn't. She looks like she is running out of her best NBC-appropriate material - that was a lot of time devoted to a lesbian gym teacher joke. She is going to keep getting challenged, much the same way that Doug Benson and Ralph Harris challenged Amy Schumer because her tank was running low.

The next targets are going to be Schlesinger (who is apparently kicking ass at New Faces in Montreal (http://thecomicscomic.typepad.com/thecomicscomic/2008/07/montreal-2008-n.html)), Jeff Dye (also in Montreal (http://thecomicscomic.typepad.com/thecomicscomic/2008/07/montreal-2008-p.html)) and Ron G. Unless someone decides to take down Tavare in front of an American audience.

The finals are probably going to be Ramey, Marcus and ... I have no idea.

mike
July 18, 2008, 12:52 PM
I don't remember Doug challenging Amy Schumer. Did he really?

charles star
July 18, 2008, 1:16 PM
I don't remember Doug challenging Amy Schumer. Did he really?
My memory must be faulty. Apparently not. Wikipedia says that Matt Kirshen was the third comic that week - Amy had won immunity.

brewcaster
July 18, 2008, 1:21 PM
Are we really going to ignore the elephant in the room here? Or do we now feel sorry for Carrot Top?

Darryl
July 18, 2008, 2:12 PM
Are we really going to ignore the elephant in the room here? Or do we now feel sorry for Carrot Top?

Well, now that the Iraq / Qari / Curry "joke" has been explained, I can say that I will gladly sit through hours of Carrot Top rather than endure that again.

Carrot Top looks like he is about to asplode any second, and when he does, those pointy eyebrows are going to fly off and slice a couple peoples' jugulars.

TimBuktu
July 18, 2008, 2:24 PM
I don't think Carrot Top is worth making fun of anymore. He's good at what he does. He's perfect for the audience that likes him. It's really a waste of energy to make fun of him for pandering to people that like to be pandered to. He's made a ton of money by being really good at prop comedy. Not everyone can be awesome.

Darryl
July 18, 2008, 2:59 PM
I don't think Carrot Top is worth making fun of anymore. He's good at what he does. He's perfect for the audience that likes him. It's really a waste of energy to make fun of him for pandering to people that like to be pandered to. He's made a ton of money by being really good at prop comedy. Not everyone can be awesome.

Good point. Three years ago, he came to my little city, and sold out a 1400 seat theater. The lowest ticket price was $30. His When I was in a Vegas a few years back, I think the tickets were $80.

If I were him... I would not change a thing!

TimBuktu
July 18, 2008, 3:18 PM
I don't think money made is some sort of reason to like someone, but in his case, what do you want him to do? Why even bother thinking about him.

brewcaster
July 18, 2008, 3:43 PM
I don't think money made is some sort of reason to like someone, but in his case, what do you want him to do? Why even bother thinking about him.

Because he was on my TV scaring my beagles.

suavepebble
July 18, 2008, 5:02 PM
There is an old hotel in downtown Milwaukee that proudly displays a signed Carrot Top picture from the 90's on its wall. If my memory serves, it was the only signed photo that they had. I remember finding it hilarious and sad and also neither of those things all at once. Later that night when I was boning my girlfriend I told her how lucky she was and that I tipped the guy to give us the Carrot Top room.

Darryl
July 19, 2008, 12:08 AM
I don't think money made is some sort of reason to like someone, but in his case, what do you want him to do? Why even bother thinking about him.

Think about who?

Scammy Davis Boogah Jr.
July 19, 2008, 6:15 AM
Marcus just comes across as an arrogant prick. Every time he opens his mouth, I think of Dave Attell saying, "Who are you, Kid Show Business?".

The world didn't need to know what Dane Cook and Bobcat Goldthwait's baby would look like...

P.S. I was face to face with Carrot Top when he came out of an elevator at the Luxor once. It was like that mouse with the ear growing on its back in that it took several moments to even begin to process what I was looking at. He is frightening....

suavepebble
July 19, 2008, 6:26 AM
For the record, I would like to barfight Adam Hunter. I'm not claiming I could kick his ass with ease on an average day at all, as I am bordering on tits and sadness... but if I were to watch his set before said barfight I am confident that I could literally kill him with my rage. Test your might, motherfucker.

slapstickeulogist
July 19, 2008, 10:26 AM
For the record, I would like to barfight Adam Hunter. I'm not claiming I could kick his ass with ease on an average day at all, as I am bordering on tits and sadness... but if I were to watch his set before said barfight I am confident that I could literally kill him with my rage. Test your might, motherfucker.

I've heard a couple people express some hate towards Adam and I don't get it. Ron G. I understand and I agree, he's an ass. But Adam Hunter is a decent comedian (I don't like his personality, but he's got some good jokes. With most of the cast I don't like either). He's very vocal about how focused and determined he is but so far he hasn't come as as cocky to me.

KeithTalent
July 19, 2008, 4:00 PM
Adam Hunter has good jokes? Weird. Someone should tell him that Last Comic Standing might be a good place to say some of them out loud.

Ryebread
July 19, 2008, 4:12 PM
Well, my personal opinion of Adam Hunter is that he's one of the hottest young comedians around today. He is full of exciting energy that makes the crowd go wild. He headlines all over the country, putting his heart and soul into every performance with an act that is brash, deep and most importantly ….funny. Adam is one of the hardest working comics around, performing every night of the week, usually 2 or 3 shows a night. Adam delivers a powerful message that keeps audiences on the edges of their seats.

On stage Adam talks about his issues concerning relationships, his dysfunctional family, and other life observations. He brings his most painful experiences –mother abandoning the family when he was 3, his family history with substance abuse, his issues with women, religion, pop culture and more to the stage in a hilarious matter in which everyone can identify with. Adam can bring down any house with his view of the world. Adam Hunter is a star in the making and you definitely want to catch his act.

Adam would like to meet a Fun Smart Hot Woman that is into helping others--positive and funny--not a prude.

Cameron
July 19, 2008, 4:42 PM
Well, my personal opinion of Adam Hunter is that he's one of the hottest young comedians around today. He is full of exciting energy that makes the crowd go wild. He headlines all over the country, putting his heart and soul into every performance with an act that is brash, deep and most importantly ….funny. Adam is one of the hardest working comics around, performing every night of the week, usually 2 or 3 shows a night. Adam delivers a powerful message that keeps audiences on the edges of their seats.

On stage Adam talks about his issues concerning relationships, his dysfunctional family, and other life observations. He brings his most painful experiences –mother abandoning the family when he was 3, his family history with substance abuse, his issues with women, religion, pop culture and more to the stage in a hilarious matter in which everyone can identify with. Adam can bring down any house with his view of the world. Adam Hunter is a star in the making and you definitely want to catch his act.

Adam would like to meet a Fun Smart Hot Woman that is into helping others--positive and funny--not a prude.

Are you a member of the Adam Hunter street team or something?

And even if all that's true, he hasn't really shown any of that on this show. From what I've seen, he appears completely average in almost every way. I don't think he's bad necessarily, but he's just kind of...there.

Ryebread
July 19, 2008, 5:07 PM
Are you a member of the Adam Hunter street team or something

I coach a middle school wrestling team --it is one of the things that I really love doing. In HS wrestling meant the world to me. I was a 4 time Class A Champion and it taught me a lot about myself. Giving back that the knowledge that I learned to other people is one of the best natural highs ever. I started the program, along with Dixon Mathews and we have a lot of great kids on the team. They won a bunch of matches and I could not be prouder.

Not that it's any of your business WHAT I do!

So anyway, when I got back to LA I opened up for Wayne Brady at the Ontario Improv. He said I was "Funny as Hell". He puts on an spectacular show. I started my own internet show which led to a great weekly gig on livevideo.com I interviewed comics such as Dan Levy (MTV), Theo Von (Road Rules), Jay Davis (Tourgasm), Peter Berman (Comedy Central) as well as many others and the show rocked. I had a killer show at IOWA State and then worked with Brad Williams (Mind of Mencia) at the 8th Street Comedy Club in Odessa Texas. If you don't know Brad he is the little person on "Mind of Mencia". Went to a strip club with Brad and watch 10 strippers put thier boobs in his face bacause they thought that he was Wee man.

I mention that because in one month I flew from LA to Detroit to Amsterdam to Bahrain to Djibouti to Kenya to Amesterdam to Memphis to Missippi and then drove to Alabama to Mississippi to New Orleans and then flew to Pittsburgh to New York to Florida and then back to LA. I like flying but hate when the pilot tries to become a comic. It was 6AM when I heard "This is your captain Rob...our destination is Amsterdam..what does this button do?" I started booing! The only thing worse then that is if I would have heard "This is your captain Mohammad...my destination is Allah!" heh

KeithTalent
July 19, 2008, 5:57 PM
More like wry bread

Scammy Davis Boogah Jr.
July 19, 2008, 6:32 PM
More like 'Don't post when you're high' bread...

suavepebble
July 19, 2008, 8:38 PM
Ryebread has officially become the ruler of this thread. He has created a watermark here that will not be surpassed

Ryebread
July 19, 2008, 9:40 PM
Thanks everyone!!

xoValeriexo
July 20, 2008, 3:53 PM
Yes!! Marcus sounds like Dave Attell and Iliza is the female Dane Cook. So fucking true.. and awful.

I despise Iliza. I think she is a horrible bitch, who thinks she's better than she is, partly because she was able to beat 4 very weak comedians. Iliza made me like Esther Ku. Also very true that Iliza loves to draw attention to her body. Her weirdly muscular legs. That wasn't meant to be self-deprecating. Her joke about Chloe Kardashian being a "big girl" is just another example.

I enjoyed God's Pottery as people and found them to be hilarious off-stage, but on-stage they were very weak and they were only funny in the way that men genuinely singing songs like those are funny. The Voldemort joke against Tavare made me excited too. Oh, yes, and they definitely had it easy in the boxing challenge. It was hilarious, but was also much easier for them because of the angle they were perfectly suited to take.

I could say more.. mainly about the girl's cheerleading squad that I coach.. but I'll wait.

slapstickeulogist
July 20, 2008, 4:42 PM
It seems to me like Marcus is trying to channel Paul Rudd more so than Attell.

Ivan
July 20, 2008, 5:18 PM
Iliza made me like Esther Ku.

That's like saying Jeffrey Dahmer made you like Ed Gein.

xoValeriexo
July 20, 2008, 8:52 PM
I coach a middle school wrestling team --it is one of the things that I really love doing. In HS wrestling meant the world to me. I was a 4 time Class A Champion and it taught me a lot about myself. Giving back that the knowledge that I learned to other people is one of the best natural highs ever. I started the program, along with Dixon Mathews and we have a lot of great kids on the team. They won a bunch of matches and I could not be prouder.

Not that it's any of your business WHAT I do!

So anyway, when I got back to LA I opened up for Wayne Brady at the Ontario Improv. He said I was "Funny as Hell". He puts on an spectacular show. I started my own internet show which led to a great weekly gig on livevideo.com I interviewed comics such as Dan Levy (MTV), Theo Von (Road Rules), Jay Davis (Tourgasm), Peter Berman (Comedy Central) as well as many others and the show rocked. I had a killer show at IOWA State and then worked with Brad Williams (Mind of Mencia) at the 8th Street Comedy Club in Odessa Texas. If you don't know Brad he is the little person on "Mind of Mencia". Went to a strip club with Brad and watch 10 strippers put thier boobs in his face bacause they thought that he was Wee man.

I mention that because in one month I flew from LA to Detroit to Amsterdam to Bahrain to Djibouti to Kenya to Amesterdam to Memphis to Missippi and then drove to Alabama to Mississippi to New Orleans and then flew to Pittsburgh to New York to Florida and then back to LA. I like flying but hate when the pilot tries to become a comic. It was 6AM when I heard "This is your captain Rob...our destination is Amsterdam..what does this button do?" I started booing! The only thing worse then that is if I would have heard "This is your captain Mohammad...my destination is Allah!" heh

If this is a joke, it's brilliant. If it's not, it's weird and bad and sad and awkward. What crraazzyy anecdotes.

GymShoes
July 20, 2008, 10:26 PM
Iliza's got awesome jokes, but I find her breasts to be exaggerated and unfunny.

Sometimes I confuse the words "breasts" and "jokes".

pollymaepry
July 20, 2008, 10:30 PM
I despise Iliza. I think she is a horrible bitch, who thinks she's better than she is, partly because she was able to beat 4 very weak comedians. Iliza made me like Esther Ku. Also very true that Iliza loves to draw attention to her body. Her weirdly muscular legs. That wasn't meant to be self-deprecating. Her joke about Chloe Kardashian being a "big girl" is just another example.


Holy smokez, take a pill, lady.

metal2000
July 21, 2008, 1:10 AM
Maybe I'm not a good comedy fan (I thought I was) but I generally enjoy most of Eliza's set. And I dislike almost everything Dane Cook has done. Is that impossible? If so, then call me Impossible!

Since I've been a Sean Cullen fan for a good 10 years now, I obviously want him to win the entire thing, but I've been very pleased with Tavere's quick wit and intelligent humour so far, and I would go see Marcus, Jeff Dye, and Louis Ramey if they came through town (Ramey actually is already scheduled to at some point in the future, if I recall). I'm glad Papa CJ and Esther Ku are gone, as they both made me CRINGE, and I could do without Ron G as well. And while he's not necessarily my "thing", I do recognize Adam Hunter has solid material that I know many would enjoy, so if he does well I'll not be upset.

My ideal Top 3 would be Cullen, Tavere, and Dye I think, even though he's really green and I'm not sure if he has the material to carry a showcase.

Really, though, I don't care who wins. It's exposed me to some comedians I didn't already know, and then I can do the leg work after that to find their stuff and decide if it's great or not.

BillBrasky
July 21, 2008, 5:31 AM
Even if I liked their material (which I don't), Louis Ramey, Adam Hunter, Iliza Schlesinger, and Ron G are all just unpleasant people. They're all so cocky and arrogant about how wonderful they are as comedians. If you're a comedian, there should be a slight layer of self-doubt and self-loathing there; no stand-up comedian should be that annoyingly sure of themselves all the time.

Jeff Dye seems all right; he did pretty well in the prop challenge, and he seems to have taken on a student-mentor relationship with Sean Cullen, which is cute. He looks kind of like John Krasinski's little brother, which surely can't hurt his chances on a reality show on NBC.
Jim Tavare's jokes are often very funny and clever, but he seems like he doesn't really want to be there and is finding it hard to mask his disdain for the others. Plus, he's been around as long as Cullen has, if not longer. (I think he was on an episode of "Night Court" once with his double bass).

I am looking forward to seeing more of Marcus. To be honest, I've liked what I've seen so far. I think all of his impressions have been good, and his "Willy Wonka" routine showed that he doesn't have to depend on impressions all the time. I don't see any similarity to Attell; in fact, when he was dressed up as Wonder Woman and acting silly during the calendar shoot, he seemed kind of Will Ferrell-ish to me. And, to his credit, he has seemed the least like a jerk of anyone in the house- acknowledging when other people have been funny, and at least trying to be constructive in his critical comments (accurately pinpointing where Paul Foot lost the audience during his routine, for example).

In an ideal world, the final 3 would be Marcus, Dye, and Cullen, but in all likelihood, it'll probably be Schlesinger, Ramey, and either Hunter or Ron G. At which point, I'll probably be wishing the Alien Warrior Comedian would come back to the house and blast everybody with his ray gun.....

TimBuktu
July 21, 2008, 8:38 AM
I wish I could open for Wayne Brady.

Shane
July 21, 2008, 8:41 AM
Even if I liked their material (which I don't), Louis Ramey, Adam Hunter, Iliza Schlesinger, and Ron G are all just unpleasant people.

Louis Ramey's Comedy Central Presents was one of my favorites, and I was rooting for him until I saw him in the house; he seems so angry and serious all the time.

I also loved how mad ron g. and adam hunter got at God's Pottery during the yo mama competition, it looked like they wanted to rip their heads off.

Sean Cullen is what I hope comedians are like off stage, which is why I love never not funny. Hilarious on and off stage.

Embiggen
July 21, 2008, 11:09 AM
My prediction for next week is that everyone lays off of Iliza, and Jeff gets the vote just because he's the other relative newbie. Jeff then selects Jim Tavare and Adam Hunter as his opponents, and either Jim or Jeff win, but most importantly Adam will be gone.

badinia
July 21, 2008, 11:58 AM
I'm watching this show now just so I can hate it, and my dislike of it can gloss over the noise of my real problems.

I have recluctantly become an Iliza booster, just because sure, she's mediocre but a lot of the dissing in the house is just plain anti-lady, and I'm glad to see her kick some righteous ass two weeks in a row. Respect. Of course, if Mary Mack, Jackie Kashian, or Andi Smith had gotten into the house, I wouldn't piss on Iliza if she were on fire.

I hope she gets that American Apparel Deep Vee t-shirt sponsorship she's been courting.

karyrogers
July 21, 2008, 1:02 PM
I also loved how mad ron g. and adam hunter got at God's Pottery during the yo mama competition, it looked like they wanted to rip their heads off.

Sean Cullen is what I hope comedians are like off stage, which is why I love never not funny. Hilarious on and off stage.

I thought Ron G's anger was put on during the bit in the locker room with God's Pottery. I could be wrong though since it's hard to determine meaning on TV without body language and inflection. Or maybe that's the internet I'm thinking of.

I was previously unaware of Sean and I find him very funny.

xoValeriexo
July 21, 2008, 5:55 PM
Sean Cullen will always be my little gay eskimo.

Ick. I hate when comedians reference things in pop culture and get laughs just because it's popular. The Willy Wonka joke wasn't very good, but everyone loves that movie. And there are much better things to say about Rock of Love, Iliza. Really.

rabbitandox
July 22, 2008, 8:21 PM
I just figured out Jim Tavare played the hunchbacked Tom the Innkeeper in the best movie ever made: Harry Potter and Prisoner of Azkaban. I'm rooting for him now.

charles star
July 22, 2008, 9:15 PM
I am looking forward to seeing more of Marcus. To be honest, I've liked what I've seen so far. I think all of his impressions have been good, and his "Willy Wonka" routine showed that he doesn't have to depend on impressions all the time. I don't see any similarity to Attell...
I don't see any similarity to Atell in his material but his delivery is very, very Atell-influenced (when he isn't doing impressions).

extrafacelol
July 22, 2008, 11:38 PM
Is the actual non-impressions part of Marcus' stand-up really that good, really? Because my prevailing image of him is doing impressions of the main characters of Family Guy, and i don't think there's any going back.

Rob Delaney
July 23, 2008, 12:32 AM
If this is a joke, it's brilliant. If it's not, it's weird and bad and sad and awkward. What crraazzyy anecdotes.

Of course anyone who read that giant post thought that, but for some reason, seeing it written out made me laugh for three minutes very loudly. Thank you Valerie. I don't watch the show, but this thread entertains me very much.

BananapeelWilliams
July 24, 2008, 6:42 PM
:mad::mad::mad: I hate comedy

suavepebble
July 24, 2008, 10:41 PM
Tavare's joke: "Ladies and Gentleman, I am a musician. And like most musicians, I am a musician" joke killed me. That might be the joke of the year for me. JOKE OF THE YEAR.

Shane
July 24, 2008, 11:04 PM
I wish they would keep the same freaking format for this stupid show...the winner is the person with the most votes out of the top 5?

xoValeriexo
July 24, 2008, 11:47 PM
COMMENTS.

Ron G finds one funny thing and latches onto it. He started out semi-clever, then decided to stick with "Ain't nobody thinking about you".

Why in the world are Playmates allowed to judge comedy? They were goddamn morons.. Especially Kendra.. Ron G was awful, but she wanted to fuck him.

Jim Tavare is like a funny Jay London.

Jeff sometimes repeats little things that other comedians say. I noticed it before, but I can only remember specifically the ones he said tonight. He said, "I know what you're thinking, that's a very stereotypical voice I used for a homeless person" or something close to that.. which is something that Daniel Tosh says, but with "black person" instead of "homeless person". Doesn't seem like much, but it's all in the way he said it. Also, he said something about not hiding his homeless-detecting gift under a bushel or something. And Jim Gaffigan says "you have a gift, my friend, don't hide that in a bushel basket." I'm just saying.. who ever says "bushel"? He might just be into them and so sort of says things that they say.. he doesn't steal their jokes, so I don't think it's a big deal.. It's just something I noticed.

Marcus needs to stop with the Walken impressions.

Iliza could be lying about her jokes being new in order to get votes from the home audience. I didn't want to strangle her tonight, though I didn't love her.. I just felt like her jokes finally had some truth to them. I remember seeing two girls spotting one another at Tower Records; One said "Bitch!" And the other replied "Whore!" And then they hugged.

Tell me what you noticed!

BananapeelWilliams
July 25, 2008, 12:18 AM
Marcus needs to stop with the Walken impressions.



He needs to stop all the impressions (I'm not trying to be clever), they really are not that good. His Bobcat and Godfried impressions are both very good, but it's 2008 so who cares? His Pacino, Sandler, Nicholson... I can't remember everything he did, they were really not that accurate.

metal2000
July 25, 2008, 12:55 AM
I really liked Tavare's set a lot; Sean Cullen's song was okay, but I much prefer his non-singing comedy (specifically his improvising with the crowd) to his musical stuff; I didn't mind Iliza, and if she really did write 2/3 of her set in the days leading up, that's ballsy and pretty good, too; Ramey's jokes were strong, but because he's been around so long, I've heard most of them before; Jeff Dye is very funny, but I think I'd get annoyed with his "right?" over and over for a feature set.

Adam, Ron G, and Marcus I would never pay to see perform (even though I know others would).

pollymaepry
July 25, 2008, 1:15 AM
xoVal is uh, quite the pistol.

Adam was the worst which is quite an achievement. Tavare was best which is...means...Sean Cullen didn't do great.
I'm gonna try to stop watching this show now. REALLY!

suavepebble
July 25, 2008, 2:49 AM
COMMENTS.

Ron G finds one funny thing and latches onto it. He started out semi-clever, then decided to stick with "Ain't nobody thinking about you".

Why in the world are Playmates allowed to judge comedy? They were goddamn morons.. Especially Kendra.. Ron G was awful, but she wanted to fuck him.

Jim Tavare is like a funny Jay London.

Jeff sometimes repeats little things that other comedians say. I noticed it before, but I can only remember specifically the ones he said tonight. He said, "I know what you're thinking, that's a very stereotypical voice I used for a homeless person" or something close to that.. which is something that Daniel Tosh says, but with "black person" instead of "homeless person". Doesn't seem like much, but it's all in the way he said it. Also, he said something about not hiding his homeless-detecting gift under a bushel or something. And Jim Gaffigan says "you have a gift, my friend, don't hide that in a bushel basket." I'm just saying.. who ever says "bushel"? He might just be into them and so sort of says things that they say.. he doesn't steal their jokes, so I don't think it's a big deal.. It's just something I noticed.

Marcus needs to stop with the Walken impressions.

Iliza could be lying about her jokes being new in order to get votes from the home audience. I didn't want to strangle her tonight, though I didn't love her.. I just felt like her jokes finally had some truth to them. I remember seeing two girls spotting one another at Tower Records; One said "Bitch!" And the other replied "Whore!" And then they hugged.

Tell me what you noticed!


I noticed Iliza ends her jokes by yelling "what!" way too much. Adam falls back on bringing up something and then saying "that is exactly like this!" and then he says something that it is possibly like, but not really.

"You ever get fresh food at mcdonalds?... whoa, hah, yes, that is exactly like something very rare and unheard of!"


Tavare or else I am outta here. I like Cullen, too... but that singing stuff doesn't work at all and I can't believe nobody has told him that. He does have a beautiful voice, though. Maybe he just wants to show the world something beautiful.

BillBrasky
July 25, 2008, 3:37 AM
I agree, I didn't find Sean Cullen's song funny so much as I found it a really nice song. It's pleasant to listen to. It's off his second album "I am a Human Man".

karyrogers
July 25, 2008, 10:02 AM
Jeff Dye is very funny, but I think I'd get annoyed with his "right?" over and over for a feature set.

That was annoying, right?

Sean Cullen's set was not quite what I'd hoped it would be but it was still charming. They seem to use about twice as much Cullen in the interview/confessional things as anyone else. I think this is because he is HILARIOUS.

Daryl
July 25, 2008, 10:41 AM
I really liked Sean Cullen's song, although it seemed like the crowd was laughing at the wrong parts (or they didn't know when it was going to end). I think Iliza's set was pretty new because of the way she kept using the word "What?!". I don't think she was comfortable with that material yet. I thought Louis Ramey's set was strong. All of his jokes were very tightly written. It seemed like he uses the economy of words idea really well.

brewcaster
July 25, 2008, 11:27 AM
I think Kendra won last night.

MarkAgee
July 25, 2008, 11:54 AM
I knew I recongnized Tavare from somewhere. I remembered where when when I saw that bit that's an impression of a man sawing off a wooden leg.

He did it on an episode of Wings that IMDB says aired in 1992.

(The one where Helen tries stand-up, titled 'Take My Life, Please.' About the 5 min mark here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5msksSBZKHU&feature=related

)

Famous Police Dog
July 25, 2008, 12:41 PM
Louis Ramey's Comedy Central Presents was one of my favorites, and I was rooting for him until I saw him in the house; he seems so angry and serious all the time.


editing can make anyone look like a chode

dougbenson
July 25, 2008, 3:26 PM
I like Cullen, too... but that singing stuff doesn't work at all and I can't believe nobody has told him that.

yes, someone should sit him down and say, "you know that singing that you do that is very entertaining and original? you should stop that."

i'll admit that the song he did last night was more charming than funny, but check out his comedy central half-hour before deciding the singing doesn't work.

(kendra has ray liotta mouth)

brewcaster
July 25, 2008, 4:31 PM
(kendra has ray liotta mouth)

But funnier?

TomHicks
July 25, 2008, 4:53 PM
So, I take it by your silence on the subject that you are leaving it to me to drive out to the mansion and destroy the undead corpse that used to be Hugh Hefner. I guess I better get going, it will soon will be nightfall.

I don't watch Girls Next Door; does Hefner always look so, um, not lucid?

I don't watch Girls Next Door; do Holly and Kendra ever make out?

KeithTalent
July 25, 2008, 6:16 PM
I enjoyed Cullen's song, I like just about everything the guy does, but is it going to get him votes? It was very well-written musically, bit short on punchlines. Maybe I'm wrong to suggest that he pander, I just think he's probably got regular bits that would get a better reaction in a 3 minute set and make it clearer to the home audience how much better he is than some of the other people on the show. Seemed like a risky choice to make at that point in the competition.

suavepebble
July 25, 2008, 6:49 PM
yes, someone should sit him down and say, "you know that singing that you do that is very entertaining and original? you should stop that."

i'll admit that the song he did last night was more charming than funny, but check out his comedy central half-hour before deciding the singing doesn't work.

(kendra has ray liotta mouth)


I agree it's entertaining and I made sure to state that I find his singing voice literally beautiful. I rarely say that a man's voice is beautiful, okay, so it was a big deal.

That said, I certainly didn't mean to infer that someone should have sat Cullen down to say "you know that singing that you do that is very entertaining and original? you should stop that."

That's a manipulation and you know it, sir. What I meant was that someone should have sat him down to say "Enough with the singing already, GEEZ"

I am sorry for the pain that my very extreme opinions have caused this community, though, and I do not want to fight... especially not with you, doug, you wonderful tulip.


p.s. - The phrase "at all" at the end of "the songs don't work" was a bit much, I'll give you that. They do work on certain levels that I enjoy... I just don't think it's funny, especially when you compare the songs to his funny jokes.

KeithTalent
July 25, 2008, 7:00 PM
::cough::imply::cough::

suavepebble
July 25, 2008, 7:32 PM
I typed "infer" instead of "imply" so that Sean Cullen could view my opinion as that of a moron's, thus allowing him to transcend the pain I have caused him with these harsh criticisms. At the end of the day and supposebly, I am doing the right thing here.

KeithTalent
July 25, 2008, 7:39 PM
irregardless, you don't talk good

suavepebble
July 25, 2008, 8:27 PM
irregardless, you don't talk good



all in all it's the same difference, though

Scammy Davis Boogah Jr.
July 26, 2008, 12:21 AM
I finally figured out Cullen; One part Kevin Meany, one part Jack Black.

(edited to cut drunken, overly dependent on the word 'retarded' tirade)

karyrogers
July 26, 2008, 12:30 AM
I finally figured out Cullen; One part Kevin Meany, one part Jack Black.

During the song I did think "Hey, Sean Cullen has a little Jack Black in his singing mannerisms." Though it might be more correct to say Jack Black has a little Sean Cullen in his singing mannerisms (assuming Cullen has been at this longer than Black).

suavepebble
July 26, 2008, 4:24 AM
The thing about comedy and Cullen is that it's literally a magical, psychological act of bravery to do these things right and you can tell by the look in his eye that Sean Cullen has entered into some sort of mystical state of comedy relaxation. If I were a betting man I'd say that Cullen is going to win, although my heart is completely with Tavare due to his understanding of the secret comedy levels. That said, his songs don't really work and I can't believe nobody has told him "you know that singing that you do that is very entertaining and original? you should stop that."

charles star
July 26, 2008, 10:19 AM
If I were a betting man I'd say that Cullen is going to win
If you were a betting man I'd track you down and take that bet. I liked the song, believe that Cullen is the most naturally funny person in the house (which is why his interview clips get so much air time) and am certain that Cullen will be lucky to survive to the final five from a call-in vote by a home audience that is expected to warm up to Papa CJ, Christopher Walken and Ron G.

Darryl
July 26, 2008, 10:27 AM
If you were a betting man I'd track you down and take that bet. I liked the song, believe that Cullen is the most naturally funny person in the house (which is why his interview clips get so much air time) and am certain that Cullen will be lucky to survive to the final five from a call-in vote by a home audience that is expected to warm up to Papa CJ, Christopher Walken and Ron G.

Too late to warm up to Papa CJ. They'll have to call him at home.

charles star
July 26, 2008, 10:34 AM
Too late to warm up to Papa CJ. They'll have to call him at home.
I was referring to the initial casting.

xoValeriexo
July 27, 2008, 12:16 AM
I don't think Sean Cullen is like Jack Black.
I think his singing is fantastic. I didn't think the farmer song was the funniest I've heard, but I really enjoyed it.. I know I'll love singing it in my bedroom as much as I have Wood, Cheese, and Children. He's just so fucking likable.

Jim Tavare is full of cliches and he's a bit of a douche. I think he is funny, but really.. "What's up, my dudes?" Wasn't that kind of shit on Full House?

Have you seen the comedic influences of these people? Jesus H. Christ, it's fucking horrifying. Adam Sandler and Harland Williams? But my little baby bird, Sean Cullen, gave me Patton Oswalt. I would've cried for a David Cross thrown in there, but Patty is nearly as good.

You love my opinions.

metal2000
July 27, 2008, 3:30 AM
Harland Williams is awesome. I've been a fan of his since I was but a wee little girl.

suavepebble
July 27, 2008, 5:35 AM
I don't think Sean Cullen is like Jack Black.
I think his singing is fantastic. I didn't think the farmer song was the funniest I've heard, but I really enjoyed it.. I know I'll love singing it in my bedroom as much as I have Wood, Cheese, and Children. He's just so fucking likable.

Jim Tavare is full of cliches and he's a bit of a douche. I think he is funny, but really.. "What's up, my dudes?" Wasn't that kind of shit on Full House?

Have you seen the comedic influences of these people? Jesus H. Christ, it's fucking horrifying. Adam Sandler and Harland Williams? But my little baby bird, Sean Cullen, gave me Patton Oswalt. I would've cried for a David Cross thrown in there, but Patty is nearly as good.

You love my opinions.


Adam Sandler is a fine comedic influence... you have a short memory if you think otherwise. If you tell me that Billy Madison isn't a classic I will turn on you! I will fucking turn on you!!!!! I am not a fan of your Tavare stance, either... although the "my dudes" thing wasn't his finest moment. I chalked it up to foreign befuddlement, you know? When he was saying "my dudes" he was mocking our cultural lexicon, whereas when "my dudes" was uttered on Full House it literally meant "my dudes"... I am not saying it was funny, though. Sorry, Jim... I still love you, man.

souporman
July 27, 2008, 6:00 AM
I don't think Sean Cullen is like Jack Black.
I think his singing is fantastic. I didn't think the farmer song was the funniest I've heard, but I really enjoyed it.. I know I'll love singing it in my bedroom as much as I have Wood, Cheese, and Children. He's just so fucking likable.

Jim Tavare is full of cliches and he's a bit of a douche. I think he is funny, but really.. "What's up, my dudes?" Wasn't that kind of shit on Full House?

Have you seen the comedic influences of these people? Jesus H. Christ, it's fucking horrifying. Adam Sandler and Harland Williams? But my little baby bird, Sean Cullen, gave me Patton Oswalt. I would've cried for a David Cross thrown in there, but Patty is nearly as good.

You love my opinions.

hey you leave harland alone!

suavepebble
July 27, 2008, 6:18 AM
hey you leave harland alone!


I am not ashamed to admit that I own RocketMan. In fact, I might watch it tomorrow after I smoke some weed crap. Check THIS out:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/kVdGw6gTfDU&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/kVdGw6gTfDU&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

sock puppets engaged in a conversation:

"Yes you did!"

"I did not and I am telling you that I never will"

karyrogers
July 27, 2008, 5:11 PM
I wish I could have seen Paul Foot fidget and squirm while telling the playmates a bedtime story.

xoValeriexo
July 27, 2008, 10:11 PM
Adam Sandler is a fine comedic influence... you have a short memory if you think otherwise. If you tell me that Billy Madison isn't a classic I will turn on you! I will fucking turn on you!!!!! I am not a fan of your Tavare stance, either... although the "my dudes" thing wasn't his finest moment. I chalked it up to foreign befuddlement, you know? When he was saying "my dudes" he was mocking our cultural lexicon, whereas when "my dudes" was uttered on Full House it literally meant "my dudes"... I am not saying it was funny, though. Sorry, Jim... I still love you, man.

Rocketman is another version of Chairman of the Board.

Wrinkle cream on his balls? Comedic genius.

You know in sitcoms when the dad tries to be cool and says "Yo homies, what's goin' down?" And the audience laughs while the kid sighs and says "Oh dad, you're such a square!" That was what Jim Tavare was doing. That was the laugh he was getting.

I liked Happy Gilmore, but I will not give you Billy Madison.

Cameron
July 27, 2008, 10:14 PM
I'm really hoping that Ron G and Adam Hunter get sent home this week. I don't think I even smiled once during either of their sets.

I'm scared
July 27, 2008, 11:28 PM
This thing should come down to Iliza and the fat singer.

I'm new here by the way.

Lil G
July 28, 2008, 1:33 AM
This thing should come down to Iliza and the fat singer.

I'm new here by the way.

I will harm myself if Iliza wins LCS.

suavepebble
July 28, 2008, 3:38 AM
Rocketman is another version of Chairman of the Board.

Wrinkle cream on his balls? Comedic genius.

You know in sitcoms when the dad tries to be cool and says "Yo homies, what's goin' down?" And the audience laughs while the kid sighs and says "Oh dad, you're such a square!" That was what Jim Tavare was doing. That was the laugh he was getting.

I liked Happy Gilmore, but I will not give you Billy Madison.


I'm sorry, but what you just said about Billy Madison makes you dead to me and all of your opinions essentially meaningless. I won't be a part of this.


p.s. - Tavare is not familiar with 90's era american sitcoms, give him a break. I tell you what, I am giving Tavare less of a break on that joke than the break I give every single person who still, to this day, does the "something ____... if by ____ you mean (something opposite) routine. Bad comedy and math are very similar.

BillBrasky
July 28, 2008, 7:22 AM
p.s. - Tavare is not familiar with 90's era american sitcoms

...Except for that time he appeared on "Wings".

Shane
July 28, 2008, 7:26 AM
you beat me to it, bill...you are so quick

Shane
July 28, 2008, 7:28 AM
Rocketman is another version of Chairman of the Board.

do you mean chairman of the bored?

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/lL0WayC7jW0&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/lL0WayC7jW0&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

TimBuktu
July 28, 2008, 8:41 AM
This show's boring and I don't like any of the comedians on it.

xoValeriexo
July 28, 2008, 1:28 PM
...Except for that time he appeared on "Wings".

I love you, Bill!

And, NeverNotOnAST, I love the clip. My boyfriend told me about it on, like, the first day we met and I'd still never seen it.

SuavePebble is always upset at me.

st.raw
July 28, 2008, 1:39 PM
is the rest of that norm appearance online anywhere?

Levenbach
July 28, 2008, 9:01 PM
Every time I see Norm Macdonald or Carrot Top somewhere I think about that clip. The box office poison line kills me just as hard as the b-o-r-e-d one.

Also I studied abroad with Iliza on a ship for 100 days. She is not a terrible person, she is also not a very funny person.

Shane
July 28, 2008, 9:12 PM
is the rest of that norm appearance online anywhere?

I've never seen it anywhere. After that Norm appearance on Comedy and Everything Else, i think i watched Norm talk show clips for 3 straight days and they were all hilarious. So if you ever have a free weekend and want a laugh , check those out.

metal2000
July 29, 2008, 2:41 AM
is the rest of that norm appearance online anywhere?

The only time I recall it was when it first aired. :\

suavepebble
July 29, 2008, 4:26 AM
...Except for that time he appeared on "Wings".


Your wings remark was not only hurtful to me, it was hurtful to Jim Tavare. In fact, Sean Cullen was a little upset, too. I hope you'll think twice the next time that you decide to start talking wings shit, BillBrasky.

frogmann
July 29, 2008, 6:40 AM
I think i still have that Norm Conan appearance (his two part interview and the full CTS interview that followed) somewhere, I guess I can try to find it.

willweldon
July 29, 2008, 8:23 PM
This is kind of turning into the "Norm MacDonald" thread, but here's a site that has transcripts and audio clips (must of which are in "real" format, ugh) and has his whole appearance from the Courtney Thorne Smith clip. I've wasted full days on it.

the Fake News (http://www.fakenews.net/archive/index.html)

Scammy Davis Boogah Jr.
July 30, 2008, 8:37 AM
This is kind of turning into the "Norm MacDonald" threadthe Fake News (http://www.fakenews.net/archive/index.html)

I got no problem with that. It's the only thing that might make a conversation about Last Comic Standing remotely funny.

P.S. Fuck Adam Hunter

bridgetosolace
July 31, 2008, 7:57 PM
7/31 episode opinions/impressions...

What the fuck was with the musical opening? Wasn't funny or nice to listen to. Especially since it was clearly inferior to Cullen's act.

Marcus - Hey, no impressions this time! If I hear a contextually-forced Gilbert Godfried again, I'm going to scream. Nevil doesn't count :p. His set was alright. It was amusing, at least.

Ron G - Better set than last time, although he fell into his earlier trapping of focusing on one topic for way too long. The retainer joke was fine, but he kept doing it after everyone had checked out, and he didn't introduce anything new. His last joke about television advertised chat lines lost me, and he call back was forced and weak.

Jim Tavare - I was surprised an impressed. It wasn't amazing, but it was absolutely solid despite a slow finishing joke. His delivery is a bit dull, but that's just his style, I suppose. I laughed/chuckled a fair bit.

Bill Belemy did a little set...weakest set of the night, I'd say.

British chick is hot, though.

Louise Remey - Really? This is his best material? I expected much more. This set was weak and low on laughs. At least he didn't repeat the tanning salon joke this time.

Adam Hunter - Stick to wrestling. Nah, just kidding. He was alright. But he was all over the place, and the bush-is-dumb and mccain-is-old jokes are tired. His other stuff was decent, though.

Jeff Dye - I love beard humor. I thought he was charming and funny, and he stopped saying "Right? Right?" after every sentence. The build up with the "Guess Who?" joke was well done, and I enjoyed it. Jeff showed a much better way of sticking to one topic than Ron G. He did Guess Who jokes for a while, but they still stayed fairly fresh.

I'm writing this as I watch, and it's a little unfortunate that he got through just because it means either Iliza or Cullen aren't getting through. Based on last week's performance Cullen will probably get cut, and he's just wonderful :(

Sean Cullen - His intro was hilarious. This guy is a fucking proffesional. He did his bond material on his special, and I still liked it. The singing impressions were good but not hilarious. He should have done his irish bond villain joke.

Iliza - Who's that retarded idiot in the corner that keeps jumping? Not her strongest set. Solid, I suppose. Not bad, not particularly good.

So Iliza gets through over Cullen...based strictly on what's represented in the show, I'd have to agree. Cullen's sets just haven't been as hilarious as we know he is. I could have done without Marcus, though. Thanks, Girls Next Door. Why were they judges again?

Overall, a big pile of decent. Kind of sad the one of the strongest sets of the night was from the greenest guy.

metal2000
July 31, 2008, 8:40 PM
Harland Williams is awesome. I've been a fan of his since I was but a wee little girl.

Sean Cullen totally stole my line with his intro tonight!!!!!!!!

(Yes, I know that he didn't. In fact, I probably subconsciously stole his.)

Anyway, it sucks that he's not in the Top 5, but unfortunately I'm not at all surprised. His set was the most consistently funny and also the least "crazy Las Vegas scream-worthy" (which is a good thing). I did enjoy Dye's and Tavare's sets, and Ramey is a pro.

As long as Marcus or Iliza don't win, I'll be happy. Not that it really matters, except that if there will be more of the winner on my TV, I'd rather it be someone I actually enjoy (since I'm required to watch all TV at all times).

karyrogers
July 31, 2008, 8:53 PM
This is the first season I've ever watched this show and Sean Cullen won over my heart and the heart of my wife. We both died a little tonight.

The sets that kept me engaged were Tavare, Dye, and Cullen. Ron G and Adam were obvious cuts but I was worried about that last spot. I'd like to lay some blame on the Girls Next Door but I'm afraid it wouldn't have made much difference.

Darryl
July 31, 2008, 8:56 PM
... and also the least "crazy Las Vegas scream-worthy" (which is a good thing) ...

Yeah, I get SO TIRED of all the screaming I hear on just about every live show on TV in the last couple years. Daily Show, Colbert, and many other of my favorite shows seem to get cursed with people who do not know how to laugh or applaud, but only know how to scream. What do they do at home? Communicate in grunts and underarm-farts?

bridgetosolace
July 31, 2008, 9:04 PM
Cullen was easily the most hilarious person in the house, but the material he chose to use on stage wasn't the best, considering the venue.

pg13
July 31, 2008, 11:09 PM
I'm astonished by how many people have signed on to AST for the sole purpose of sharing their opinions about this show.

I think a lot of the typical "let's talk about reality shows" message boards have given up on LCS (Television Without Pity, I'm looking at you...and not finding anything current about LCS)--and a google search might have turned up AST...and thus, we've got new friends!

Obviously, if people come here and find out about the cool comics that we spend most of our time lauding...awesome. However, it must be clear that the type of comics that tend to do well on LCS aren't the type of comics that are typically beloved by AST.

(No offense, Doug.)

That said...going into tonight's show, I had two friends in the final eight. Leaving tonight's show, I've got two friends in the final five.

I thought it was INCREDIBLY CRUEL how they had the performers do their set...and, while they're still pumped up from having given their best on network television, THEN they tell them if the set they did last week gave them enough votes for the set they just did to be voted on by America...or if they just "wasted their time."

(Performing comedy on network television is rarely "wasting your time.")

Oh, I would have HATED THAT.

(But if you dangled a shot at a quarter of a million dollars, I'd have hugged the shit out of Fearne Cotton and looked contritely hopeful...)

pg--I thought Jeff Dye had a really good set...and I thought Marcus did the solid job that I've seen him do nearly every time I've seen him...and I thought Jim Tavare had a better set this week than he did last week...and I thought Louis Ramey's set was fair at best...and I thought Iliza Schlesinger did what she does as well as she does it. Ron G, while charismatic, is fluffy and repetitive (and he was the one I was surprised hadn't been voted by America instead of Jim Tavare). Adam Hunter is shallow and sweaty...he gets one obvious laugh for each obvious idea he presented, nothing more...however much energy he invested in it. And Sean Cullen is a performer with great style and panache...and, typically, his attitude would be enough...but not with America last week. (And a poor idea to do impressions bit...especially a music-based impressions bit...or an impression based on someone that EVERYONE does...after Marcus had already performed.) ...in case anyone cared what I thought, of course.--seattle

xoValeriexo
August 1, 2008, 2:42 AM
Louis Ramey's whole "I love America" thing was a bit sad. Like when that little lady on American Idol sang "God Bless the USA". Pandering.
Jeff Dye had the best set of the top 5. He also has that adorable cool-nerd look that's really in right now, which helps. It shouldn't matter, but it helps to get the votes from the young girls.
Adam Hunter is obnoxious. I agree about the Bush and McCain jokes.
Iliza is skinny with huge boobs. Her dad seems like a fucking hack too.
Jim Tavare was all right, but I'm really not into his schtick (that's all it really is.. Where are you going to go with that?)
Ron G was bad. He's a regular Bill Bellamy.
Marcus has some good ideas, but he has a "just okay" delivery. Less Dave Attell, more Dane Cook tonight. He bathed.
Sean Cullen's set was great. It's not the best I've seen from him, but at least he was true to himself and wasn't just telling jokes about fucking beer pong or strippers to try to get the crowd's applause.

My boyfriend looked nearly suicidal throughout most of the show. He said that it's funny how a show about comedians can make you so fucking sad and depressed about the state of the world; You get more laughs out of Jeopardy.

And, really, The Dan Band?

suavepebble
August 1, 2008, 4:39 AM
I love that Jim Tavare lives on a boat. Also, the look in Cullen's eye is borderline supernatural and I feel that he may be literally willing the laughs out of people by the sheer power of his mind. That dye kid seems like a real person, too... so I like him. The others are vicious hyena people born of reptiles and hellbent on destruction.

PinkieOfDoom
August 1, 2008, 5:44 AM
i'm sorry. could someone list who's left? all i know is that cullen is out, i think...

Scammy Davis Boogah Jr.
August 1, 2008, 6:59 AM
Dye, Tavare, Marcus, Ramey, Schlesinger.

Honestly, how can anyone support or find funny the stream of hateful, unfunny bullshit that is Iliza Schlesinger's act?

"I used to work in an office, and my boss was fat. Some people are lonely and have cats. Cathy cartoons are pathetic. Oh wait, am I losing the crowd? BEER PONG!!!!!!!"

Just awful...

Brian J.
August 1, 2008, 8:12 AM
Bill Bellamy... what the hell was that?
I like how he said that in Idaho they didn't know he was Bill Bellamy, as if he is somebody important.
That was a painful set. I've never seen him do stand up and now he's made a bad first impression on me.

BillBrasky
August 1, 2008, 8:33 AM
It kind of pained me to see Cullen's brief, aborted set, because he's capable of being so much funnier than that, but this show doesn't really let performers breathe a little bit and do complete routines. If you noticed, at first he started talking about wanting to be a James Bond villain, because he wanted to name his own henchman- that usually leads into a funny bit about giving a henchman a silly, embarassing name, but I guess he realized he wasn't going to be able to do it in that short amount of time, because he went right into talking about an Australian James Bond villain instead (and, as someone else said, that routine is normally longer too, and includes an Irish villain who talks about wrapping Bond in a woolly sweater).

With his song routine, he only had time to do 3 songs; Neil Young, Michael Stipe (whose voice is kind of similar to Neil Young, so maybe he should have done someone different), and Dylan, but he also does a great Morissey, Robert Smith, even Tom Waits in the version that's on his album. And where was the music? They gave him all that great musical backing for his porn and farming songs, so it seemed strange for him to sing the Neil Young song acapella. He should have had his normal guitar player, Dylan, backing him up.

Ultimately, he's a comedian who needs a longer set to get people involved and be able to work up to something. He's not a one-liner comedian and his style of comedy doesn't work in that environment.

erechoveraker
August 1, 2008, 9:54 AM
Dye, Tavare, Marcus, Ramey, Schlesinger.

Honestly, how can anyone support or find funny the stream of hateful, unfunny bullshit that is Iliza Schlesinger's act?

"I used to work in an office, and my boss was fat. Some people are lonely and have cats. Cathy cartoons are pathetic. Oh wait, am I losing the crowd? BEER PONG!!!!!!!"

Just awful...

Yeah, her whole set just made me dislike her, aside from the fact I didn't find her funny, but that she must have thought her material was...? The toothless comments, fat etc, it was just bizarre, mean but without anything else. I didn't even know how to relate to her material at all, and it made her seem like an awful person - who also likes to jump up and down a lot.

brewcaster
August 1, 2008, 11:14 AM
I used to defend this show. But after that weird circus of suck, I am washing my hands of this show and thread. My stomach still hurts...

What the hell was that?

TomHicks
August 1, 2008, 1:55 PM
I missed this week's; I am disappointed that Cullen didn't make it through. I thought he would connect with the audience more -- particularly the at-home voting audience. But then, all of the comedians were in agreement that God's Pottery was going to win that face-off because, as Cullen himself said, they will get the crowd excited with the music and a sing-along.

And before I get too smug about the at-home voting rabble, wasn't there a superfast blurb on the screen last week that the producers have ultimate say on who moves forward in the contest?

metal2000
August 1, 2008, 7:55 PM
Last year Canadians were allowed to vote. This year they were not. Guaranteed Cullen would be in there if they were.

bridgetosolace
August 1, 2008, 9:11 PM
I'm astonished by how many people have signed on to AST for the sole purpose of sharing their opinions about this show.

Obviously, if people come here and find out about the cool comics that we spend most of our time lauding...awesome. However, it must be clear that the type of comics that tend to do well on LCS aren't the type of comics that are typically beloved by AST.


I've listened to a hundred episodes of never not funny (and plan to get primo at a later date), so I've known about the site for a while. Just looking for a time a put put in my two cents :p.

This wasn't Iliza's best set, but she's been solid her past two performances. I understand hating Paul Foot/Papa CJ/God's Pottery, but she's not detestable. I don't get why people hate her so much.

Darryl
August 1, 2008, 9:33 PM
I've listened to a hundred episodes of never not funny (and plan to get primo at a later date), so I've known about the site for a while. Just looking for a time a put put in my two cents :p.

This wasn't Iliza's best set, but she's been solid her past two performances. I understand hating Paul Foot/Papa CJ/God's Pottery, but she's not detestable. I don't get why people hate her so much.

It's weird. Both my teen daughter and I had an immediate dislike for her. Despite her obvious energy and ability to connect with the audience, we both wince whenever she comes on. And each time, I think we approach it with an open mind that maybe this time it will be different. Nope.

So, I've been trying to dissect it. Part of it is intangible; some people just bug you, and there doesn't have to be a reason. Another part may be that so much of her stuff is like frat-boy humor, which I don't care for from actual frat-boys, and I find it even less interesting from a woman. Call me sexist. But the most important reason is I just don't find her jokes funny. She uses rhythm and aggression to get a reaction, but her actual writing is weak. There are many comedians like this, whose material is only funny when presented by them, but if you read it you would never laugh. It works for those comedians, because they themselves are funny and interesting to watch no matter what they do. To me, Illiza's material is like that, only I don't find her funny, endearing, charming, or interesting. I would never say someone else can't like her. More power to her for getting this far and having the fans she does. Yay. Go for it. Everyone has to find their audience. But I'm not her audience.

More importantly: Sign up for the Primo now! You are missing some of the funniest stuff anywhere. Sell a family member, cash in your life insurance, move to a cheaper place, do whatever you need to do, but scrape together that 20 bucks. You have a lot of catching up to do! There's about 20 hours of stuff in season three you haven't heard yet. :D

bridgetosolace
August 2, 2008, 2:12 AM
I listened to them all in about the span of a month, so there's no way I could live without more, but I'm waiting for them to have a full season out before I buy :)

As for as Iliza, comedy is a performance. Some of Maria Bamford's stuff wouldn't be so funny on paper either (not that they're similar, but you know...). I do get the sense that she's a very "guy" comic, but it does seem like she's doing female oriented material. Talking about how uncomfortable hi-heels are, for example.

So, she's a girl doing female material as a guy in hopes to appeal to both audiences. I think it works fine. I'm the age where frat boy humor is still alright to me :)

Darryl
August 2, 2008, 6:39 AM
I listened to them all in about the span of a month, so there's no way I could live without more, but I'm waiting for them to have a full season out before I buy :)

As for as Iliza, comedy is a performance. Some of Maria Bamford's stuff wouldn't be so funny on paper either (not that they're similar, but you know...). I do get the sense that she's a very "guy" comic, but it does seem like she's doing female oriented material. Talking about how uncomfortable hi-heels are, for example.

So, she's a girl doing female material as a guy in hopes to appeal to both audiences. I think it works fine. I'm the age where frat boy humor is still alright to me :)

Bamford is a perfect example of someone I find so fascinating and naturally funny that I could watch or listen to her for hours.

Kentock
August 2, 2008, 7:16 AM
Maria would in fact be very funny to read, because her jokes are really well structured and written with a lot of specific, funny detail. Her voices obviously add to that, but the core is very solid. One of the reasons she is so amazing is that her performances are funny in several different ways at once.

Scammy Davis Boogah Jr.
August 2, 2008, 8:55 AM
I'm the age where frat boy humor is still alright to me :)

Don't make excuses for your sense of humor. You're amongst friends now, you no longer have to pretend that the spastic cunt with no material is interesting.

I find the Bamford comparison so off base that it's personally offensive to me. Bamford would lay waste to Schlesinger. And after she stopped weeping, I imagine Iliza's only comeback would be, "I got bigger tits. right fellas?" and then pretend to fart into the mic.

xoValeriexo
August 2, 2008, 4:20 PM
Maria Bamford is genuine. She's a bit weird and that comes across in her performances. It's just who she is and I really, really like her.
Iliza is trying to gain approval from the audience. She was a fucking nasty bitch when she wasn't performing. I find her very obnoxious, conceited, and rude. She is completely detestable. Obviously. I don't find her at all likable.. but some people do like her, so she has something. But Hitler had a lot of followers too. Sometimes people are just naive.

God, I'm so judgmental. But, jesus, Iliza tries too hard. We don't need Dane Cook with big tits. Iliza relies way too much on the physical aspect of her comedy, which I find repugnant. Think about something.. Now exaggerate it.. Now think about a movement.. Exaggerate it. People will laugh, but it's bullshit. No one looks like a fucking dinosaur when they bump into a table or whatever that joke was, but she gets laugh because she's being loud and overly animated. I'm sorry.. But people are fucking stupid.

Levenbach
August 2, 2008, 5:48 PM
Hey, why don't we dial down the tone of this conversation about Iliza. "Cunt" & "Bitch" come on folks isn't this board better than that. Seriously calling a stranger names (especially those ones, when stand up is seen as a boys club by a lot of people) because you don't like them is childish.


Her stand up does not make me laugh. Neither did the last two comments.

metal2000
August 2, 2008, 7:19 PM
Her stand up does not make me laugh. Neither did the last two comments.

Agreed.

bridgetosolace
August 2, 2008, 8:11 PM
Don't make excuses for your sense of humor. You're amongst friends now, you no longer have to pretend that the spastic cunt with no material is interesting.

I find the Bamford comparison so off base that it's personally offensive to me. Bamford would lay waste to Schlesinger. And after she stopped weeping, I imagine Iliza's only comeback would be, "I got bigger tits. right fellas?" and then pretend to fart into the mic.

I already said that they're not similar at all. Jesus...just that Maria has a performance aspect of her comedy that would weaken the material in written form. I love Maria too, but I don't deny that her performance is extremely important.

Maybe it's just the juxtaposition with Paul Foot and the other terrible comedians (I thought Papa CJ was smart, but just one note), but I thought her jokes were chuckle worthy. I've seen worse acts.

Like "If you're going out with a guy you like, you might put in the extra effort. You know, put in matching bra and panties. Because what to guys like best? Color coordination!"

I thought it was silly. Sorry. I understand that she's probably the antithesis of the kind of comedy that is popular here (I heard Hardwick explain it as comedians that try to relate to the audience rather than a comedian that makes the audience relate to his point of view). So I see the statement that she's trying too hard. It's stupid comedy. Comedy that you can shut your brain off and still have fun. I think there's a place for that, and I don't fault it.

KeithTalent
August 2, 2008, 8:25 PM
Jeff Dye's opening joke was pretty funny

Other than that this whole episode was miserable. After Brasky's helpful dissection Cullen's iffy set makes a lot more sense

Bill Bellamy didn't even tell any jokes he just said what happened on vacation

God dammit I hate Ron G so much. He keeps doing these repetitive little characters. He's terrible at doing characters. I don't agree with pg13 that he's charismatic, either. He's like an exceptionally charismatic 14 year old, or an exceedingly obnoxious adult. Maybe my problem is that he has too much self-esteem. I find that very unattractive in a person.

I feel like in 5 years he'll see a clip of himself on LCS and won't even cringe. He'll be like "oh shit that's me!" and run around giving high fives.

xoValeriexo
August 3, 2008, 12:35 AM
Hey, why don't we dial down the tone of this conversation about Iliza. "Cunt" & "Bitch" come on folks isn't this board better than that. Seriously calling a stranger names (especially those ones, when stand up is seen as a boys club by a lot of people) because you don't like them is childish.


Her stand up does not make me laugh. Neither did the last two comments.

You're taking things too seriously.
I feel like my Aunt Fran just reprimanded me for saying "That sucks", like when I was a kid.

For the record, I would call a guy a "cunt" and a "bitch" too.
Which guy? It's hard to say..

pollymaepry
August 3, 2008, 12:46 AM
you think you're real clever and weavin around things. but really you're just lame.
calling someone a conceited detestable bitch has nothing to do with comedy. you also mentioned her boobs for no reason. you're lame.

BananapeelWilliams
August 3, 2008, 12:50 AM
Guys, stop fighting, this is exactly what LCS wants.

yumitree
August 3, 2008, 1:11 AM
besides, there's always a reason to mention boobs!

suavepebble
August 3, 2008, 1:29 AM
I called three of them vicious hyena people born of reptiles and hellbent on destruction and you guys are getting pissed at the boob-diss? You need to get your priorities straight, am I losing my touch for riling people into a frenzy? I need to look within, I am not happy about this at all.

yumitree
August 3, 2008, 1:37 AM
SHUT THE FUCK UP, ILIZA.

suavepebble
August 3, 2008, 3:48 AM
SHUT THE FUCK UP, ILIZA.


http://www.thestream.tv/watch.php?v=252

Darryl
August 3, 2008, 6:11 AM
http://www.thestream.tv/watch.php?v=252

I made it through 15 seconds! Do I get a prize?

Shane
August 3, 2008, 9:26 AM
I made it through 15 seconds! Do I get a prize?


haha, 15 seconds doesn't even get you through the intro

CaptainBreakfast
August 3, 2008, 12:01 PM
I made it through two minutes. It has ruined my day.

Darryl
August 3, 2008, 12:24 PM
I made it through two minutes. It has ruined my day.

Play with fire... you gittin' burned!

xoValeriexo
August 3, 2008, 2:26 PM
you think you're real clever and weavin around things. but really you're just lame.
calling someone a conceited detestable bitch has nothing to do with comedy. you also mentioned her boobs for no reason. you're lame.

Iliza wears the lowest v-necks I've ever seen and she bends over constantly while she performs. She uses her body to get people to like her, which is why I brought it up.
If she didn't act like such a cunt all of the time, I wouldn't really care that she's a shitty comedian. I don't feel bad calling her names because she's mean. I'm actually very, very nice. I tried to give her a chance, multiple times, every time, but she, like Avril Lavigne, is always simply horrible.

I watched all of it. See.. more chances. Here are my notes:
She's not unfunny here.
She has a cat. I like cats.
She doesn't hate George W. Bush.
Her whole rant about the lesbian woman is enough for me to call her a "cunt" and a "bitch" again. Maybe that's why she doesn't hate Bush. It's at around 10 minutes in. But I kind of agree with her.. I mean, a doctor shouldn't have to treat Mexicans if he doesn't want to. "If she's allowed to sue them, then they should be allowed to sue her for being gay."
She's not wearing pants! That's adorable.
Iliza as a bear is endlessly watchable. She actually looks like Fester Addams there.. Not exactly an insult.

I know that she's not always mean; Sometimes she's an insecure kiss-ass.

It's a "boys club" partly because of female comedians like Iliza and Esther Ku.

I love you.

Ryebread
August 3, 2008, 2:54 PM
hey everyone what're your most embarrassing moments?

I'll go ahead and get this started. One time I was bombing really bad in a biker bar and I said, "Does anybody wanna make out?" And this really hot girl jumped up on stage and we started going at it. Oh wait, you said "embarrassing moment." I thought you said "really cool moment." My most embarrassing moment was when I was really desperate for cash and was in an interactive play called "Birdy's Bachelorette Party." I had to work at an '80s nightclub in NYC as a "shotboy" selling shots of alcohol, and had to wear